1 00:00:35,350 --> 00:00:39,590 hello this is the president 2 00:00:43,139 --> 00:00:41,090 hello this is the President of the 3 00:00:48,729 --> 00:00:43,149 United States 4 00:00:48,739 --> 00:00:55,329 this is my private line how did you 5 00:01:16,180 --> 00:01:00,950 receive every day there is nothing 6 00:01:16,190 --> 00:01:29,360 there are monsters 7 00:01:29,370 --> 00:02:23,030 speaker spoke up and said sweetly 8 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:30,150 call the Nature Boy 9 00:02:34,530 --> 00:02:32,010 go online check us out at our stream 10 00:02:35,690 --> 00:02:34,540 live calm at stop stream live.com with 11 00:02:37,460 --> 00:02:35,700 all the 12 00:02:39,530 --> 00:02:37,470 that have Ground Zero on for three hours 13 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:39,540 you can listen online of you aren't 14 00:02:42,830 --> 00:02:41,250 clear away or if your station doesn't 15 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:42,840 carry the full three hours find one that 16 00:02:47,449 --> 00:02:44,610 does or call your program director and 17 00:02:48,890 --> 00:02:47,459 ask if we could have Ground Zero on for 18 00:02:51,500 --> 00:02:48,900 three hours in your neck of the woods 19 00:02:57,410 --> 00:02:51,510 happy awesome we like to get the whole 20 00:03:05,570 --> 00:03:02,479 as I show is actually based on a concern 21 00:03:06,740 --> 00:03:05,580 from listeners in Iowa about something 22 00:03:08,900 --> 00:03:06,750 that's happening there they said getting 23 00:03:11,630 --> 00:03:08,910 news reports and people are baffled 24 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:11,640 about what's happening 25 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:14,850 I think it's Muscatine County in Iowa 26 00:03:20,180 --> 00:03:17,130 southeastern Iowa sort of you know of 27 00:03:22,940 --> 00:03:20,190 course I would assume it's some country 28 00:03:25,729 --> 00:03:22,950 area some out-of-the-way place but the 29 00:03:27,860 --> 00:03:25,739 news reports are quite haunting listen 30 00:03:30,500 --> 00:03:27,870 to this top story tonight men in black 31 00:03:33,259 --> 00:03:30,510 trench coats jumping out of cars driving 32 00:03:35,690 --> 00:03:33,269 a dike I can remember back when I worked 33 00:03:37,340 --> 00:03:35,700 alongside Wolfgang Gossett the man who 34 00:03:39,890 --> 00:03:37,350 would later become known as well one of 35 00:03:42,110 --> 00:03:39,900 the suspects at a DB Cooper case and he 36 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:42,120 told me about the men in black this is 37 00:03:45,949 --> 00:03:44,370 long before the cartoonish version that 38 00:03:47,750 --> 00:03:45,959 we have seen in the movies came along 39 00:03:50,300 --> 00:03:47,760 and he said that that we need to be 40 00:03:52,039 --> 00:03:50,310 aware of them that the black hats and 41 00:03:54,949 --> 00:03:52,049 the mirrored shades were covers for men 42 00:03:57,020 --> 00:03:54,959 who were not mentally part of his earth 43 00:03:59,660 --> 00:03:57,030 they're a moral attitudes and their 44 00:04:01,130 --> 00:03:59,670 stares were part of legends they were 45 00:04:02,270 --> 00:04:01,140 first presented by the likes of John 46 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:02,280 keel in the book the Mothman Prophecies 47 00:04:07,039 --> 00:04:04,530 I remember hearing about the men in 48 00:04:09,620 --> 00:04:07,049 black in the Mauri Island situation in 49 00:04:11,750 --> 00:04:09,630 the northwest here Thomas a Bullard a 50 00:04:13,759 --> 00:04:11,760 folklorist a UFO investigator argues 51 00:04:16,940 --> 00:04:13,769 that the men in black stepped into the 52 00:04:18,199 --> 00:04:16,950 shoes vacated by angels and demons but 53 00:04:19,729 --> 00:04:18,209 have now been modified to reflect 54 00:04:21,790 --> 00:04:19,739 extraterrestrial rather than 55 00:04:24,219 --> 00:04:21,800 supernatural employment but clearly our 56 00:04:27,409 --> 00:04:24,229 functionaries of the same mold 57 00:04:30,050 --> 00:04:27,419 Jerome Clarke once wrote he actually 58 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:30,060 talked about William woods 1973 book a 59 00:04:34,010 --> 00:04:31,610 history of the devil which says 60 00:04:35,630 --> 00:04:34,020 sometimes the devil wears green or gray 61 00:04:37,210 --> 00:04:35,640 but mostly is dressed in black and 62 00:04:39,590 --> 00:04:37,220 always is in the fashions of the day 63 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:39,600 it's also the strange song called down 64 00:04:43,340 --> 00:04:42,090 in the park by Gary Newman Newman who 65 00:04:45,140 --> 00:04:43,350 himself looks very much like an 66 00:04:47,540 --> 00:04:45,150 alien-human hybrid wrote the song about 67 00:04:49,310 --> 00:04:47,550 a vision he had about being in a park 68 00:04:51,529 --> 00:04:49,320 where the gray aliens called mock men 69 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:51,539 which is described as anthropomorphic 70 00:04:54,379 --> 00:04:53,130 machines with human skins and abduct 71 00:04:57,140 --> 00:04:54,389 rape and kill human beings for 72 00:05:00,650 --> 00:04:57,150 entertainment can be argued that the 73 00:05:02,750 --> 00:05:00,660 mock men are like women in black in fact 74 00:05:04,310 --> 00:05:02,760 one of the mock men is called number 5 75 00:05:05,810 --> 00:05:04,320 and presents himself at first as a 76 00:05:09,370 --> 00:05:05,820 friend and then later is revealed that 77 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:09,380 he literally is an abusive evil entity 78 00:05:12,790 --> 00:05:10,730 when we hear secret intelligence 79 00:05:14,830 --> 00:05:12,800 operations we have to realize within our 80 00:05:16,570 --> 00:05:14,840 government there is secret groups 81 00:05:18,100 --> 00:05:16,580 there's a secret government which is 82 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:18,110 like an octopus with tentacles that 83 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:19,970 reach into every aspect of our lives 84 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:21,890 those government tendrils are in the 85 00:05:25,420 --> 00:05:23,450 media the schools and our neighborhoods 86 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:25,430 and we have the government we see in 87 00:05:28,780 --> 00:05:26,690 another government that has been called 88 00:05:30,280 --> 00:05:28,790 the shadow government but by individuals 89 00:05:32,230 --> 00:05:30,290 in the shadows that use well-placed 90 00:05:34,300 --> 00:05:32,240 programming and covering the tracks of 91 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:34,310 agents that act on behalf of what can we 92 00:05:37,870 --> 00:05:35,810 call the New World Order are the men in 93 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:37,880 black that order or are they something 94 00:05:42,430 --> 00:05:39,770 more they like the mot men are they like 95 00:05:44,890 --> 00:05:42,440 machines with human skins are they more 96 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:44,900 alien and why is that they always show 97 00:05:48,820 --> 00:05:46,730 up when supernatural activities happen 98 00:05:51,940 --> 00:05:48,830 or celestial events happen well tonight 99 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:51,950 we ring on again as is always a pleasure 100 00:05:56,290 --> 00:05:53,450 to bring you on the program tonight Tim 101 00:05:58,300 --> 00:05:56,300 R Schwartz an Indiana David actually is 102 00:06:00,430 --> 00:05:58,310 from Indiana and an Emmy award-winning 103 00:06:01,780 --> 00:06:00,440 television producer videographer and as 104 00:06:03,310 --> 00:06:01,790 the author of a number of popular books 105 00:06:05,140 --> 00:06:03,320 including the lost journals of Nikola 106 00:06:07,870 --> 00:06:05,150 Tesla American strange and supernatural 107 00:06:09,610 --> 00:06:07,880 history secret black projects evil 108 00:06:12,460 --> 00:06:09,620 agenda the secret government time travel 109 00:06:14,650 --> 00:06:12,470 a how-to guide Richard shaver reality of 110 00:06:16,270 --> 00:06:14,660 the Inner Earth Admiral Byrd's secret 111 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:16,280 journey beyond the poles and is a 112 00:06:19,300 --> 00:06:18,170 contributing writer for the books of Sir 113 00:06:21,370 --> 00:06:19,310 Arthur Conan Doyle 114 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:21,380 the first Ghostbuster Brad Stigers real 115 00:06:25,030 --> 00:06:23,570 monsters gruesome critters and beasts 116 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:25,040 from the darkside and real ghosts 117 00:06:28,810 --> 00:06:27,050 restless spirits in haunted places he's 118 00:06:30,010 --> 00:06:28,820 also the editor of the internet news 119 00:06:31,210 --> 00:06:30,020 that our conspiracy journal is 120 00:06:33,250 --> 00:06:31,220 considered one of the essential reading 121 00:06:35,980 --> 00:06:33,260 journals by paranormal researchers 122 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:35,990 worldwide oh boy Tim Schwartz welcome to 123 00:06:40,300 --> 00:06:38,330 ground zero dubai thank you collide it's 124 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:40,310 a pleasure being with you again tonight 125 00:06:43,150 --> 00:06:41,930 yeah it's amazing I had to call on you 126 00:06:44,530 --> 00:06:43,160 to come in and comment on this you know 127 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:44,540 this is the first time I think in a long 128 00:06:50,410 --> 00:06:47,210 time I've heard a men and black story 129 00:06:51,940 --> 00:06:50,420 that certainly is mysterious because 130 00:06:53,470 --> 00:06:51,950 they don't really give too much detail 131 00:06:55,170 --> 00:06:53,480 only that they say that they're standing 132 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:55,180 on the side of this country road 133 00:06:59,380 --> 00:06:58,130 harassing motorists and even jumping out 134 00:07:02,860 --> 00:06:59,390 in front of cars what do you make of 135 00:07:05,620 --> 00:07:02,870 this yeah you know this these stories 136 00:07:08,350 --> 00:07:05,630 sounds an awful lot like more along the 137 00:07:11,710 --> 00:07:08,360 lines of like the lovers laying ghosts 138 00:07:13,750 --> 00:07:11,720 or cryptids that you usually happens 139 00:07:16,570 --> 00:07:13,760 along New York dark country roads you 140 00:07:19,679 --> 00:07:16,580 know I I checked on Google Maps and 141 00:07:23,159 --> 00:07:19,689 this county is just to the west 142 00:07:26,009 --> 00:07:23,169 Davenport Iowa and it's a it's a really 143 00:07:29,279 --> 00:07:26,019 rural area and you know unlike the 144 00:07:32,669 --> 00:07:29,289 traditional men and black reports which 145 00:07:35,699 --> 00:07:32,679 tend to be more on a personal level this 146 00:07:38,669 --> 00:07:35,709 just seems to be something going on to 147 00:07:43,699 --> 00:07:38,679 scare people you know I mean 148 00:07:47,069 --> 00:07:43,709 traditionally the the men in black would 149 00:07:49,589 --> 00:07:47,079 approach somebody who had you know say 150 00:07:52,169 --> 00:07:49,599 like a UFO sighting or something along 151 00:07:55,139 --> 00:07:52,179 those lines approach them while they 152 00:07:59,939 --> 00:07:55,149 were alone warned them not to talk or 153 00:08:03,989 --> 00:07:59,949 whatever and and then disappear you know 154 00:08:06,059 --> 00:08:03,999 this situation with the exception of 155 00:08:09,869 --> 00:08:06,069 night it's a little bit of research and 156 00:08:16,499 --> 00:08:09,879 you know there have been a number of UFO 157 00:08:18,479 --> 00:08:16,509 sightings in Eastern Iowa april/may 158 00:08:22,019 --> 00:08:18,489 Mazzoni there was an interesting case in 159 00:08:24,839 --> 00:08:22,029 Waterloo which is just north of this 160 00:08:28,739 --> 00:08:24,849 county where somebody said that they saw 161 00:08:33,089 --> 00:08:28,749 about 15 to 20 glowing figures in the 162 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:33,099 sky floating overhead so you know that 163 00:08:40,230 --> 00:08:37,569 it's whenever you have a situation like 164 00:08:44,129 --> 00:08:40,240 what's going on now we're where there 165 00:08:45,780 --> 00:08:44,139 are strange people entities whatever you 166 00:08:49,110 --> 00:08:45,790 want to call them being seen alongside 167 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:49,120 the roads walking along the road jumping 168 00:08:55,189 --> 00:08:51,490 out trying to get the cars to stop 169 00:08:59,059 --> 00:08:55,199 things like that you'll also find that 170 00:09:02,910 --> 00:08:59,069 there'll be an uptick of UFO reports 171 00:09:05,519 --> 00:09:02,920 ghostly incidents cryptids Bigfoot dog 172 00:09:07,850 --> 00:09:05,529 man you know things like that I was 173 00:09:09,990 --> 00:09:07,860 noticing that in fact there was a 174 00:09:11,850 --> 00:09:10,000 Janine's been sending me my feeling 175 00:09:14,249 --> 00:09:11,860 about sorry my wife now she's my wife 176 00:09:16,199 --> 00:09:14,259 yes my wife Jeanine has been sending me 177 00:09:18,660 --> 00:09:16,209 a lot of information about UFO sightings 178 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:18,670 and she actually but I told her I was 179 00:09:23,850 --> 00:09:20,290 gonna talk about BMI B's of the men in 180 00:09:26,759 --> 00:09:23,860 black in Iowa she had sent me a report 181 00:09:28,949 --> 00:09:26,769 kasha was a while ago talking about how 182 00:09:31,019 --> 00:09:28,959 they were flying triangle scene over 183 00:09:32,410 --> 00:09:31,029 Iowa summer scene over Indiana where 184 00:09:37,030 --> 00:09:32,420 you're from 185 00:09:38,910 --> 00:09:37,040 you know Waterloo Iowa apparently there 186 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:38,920 was a UFO sighting there as you said 187 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:41,690 gosh I mean I can go down a list of is 188 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:44,330 some in Des Moines we're seen there 189 00:09:48,670 --> 00:09:46,250 seems to be a flap over that area of the 190 00:09:50,620 --> 00:09:48,680 country right now and just bringing the 191 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:50,630 the men and blacking of the picture make 192 00:09:53,830 --> 00:09:51,890 it even more intriguing 193 00:09:57,010 --> 00:09:53,840 you know the idea of why would they 194 00:09:59,560 --> 00:09:57,020 spend time in and especially thing about 195 00:10:01,450 --> 00:09:59,570 this too this is something that I think 196 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:01,460 also needs to be brought up to him if 197 00:10:06,580 --> 00:10:03,650 this is a small town you know or a small 198 00:10:08,170 --> 00:10:06,590 area and you know and they see these men 199 00:10:09,820 --> 00:10:08,180 in black and the trench coat standing on 200 00:10:11,740 --> 00:10:09,830 the street and please say well it's 201 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:11,750 probably teenagers pulling pranks how 202 00:10:15,910 --> 00:10:13,130 many people really live in that area 203 00:10:18,820 --> 00:10:15,920 would you recognize who these men are in 204 00:10:20,590 --> 00:10:18,830 the trench coats you know you feel 205 00:10:21,940 --> 00:10:20,600 exactly if it's a small town you'd know 206 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:21,950 who they are unless they cover their 207 00:10:26,530 --> 00:10:24,410 faces in black or something but this the 208 00:10:28,420 --> 00:10:26,540 idea that the police I think are kind of 209 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:28,430 neglecting their ability to investigate 210 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:30,290 saying it may be teenagers and pranks 211 00:10:34,540 --> 00:10:32,330 like probably literally joking about it 212 00:10:36,790 --> 00:10:34,550 which i think is is weird but people are 213 00:10:40,210 --> 00:10:36,800 terrified by this and it's out like you 214 00:10:41,740 --> 00:10:40,220 say in a very rural area of Iowa so 215 00:10:44,350 --> 00:10:41,750 you'd be able to recognize who the 216 00:10:47,500 --> 00:10:44,360 people are in the in the in the trench 217 00:10:49,690 --> 00:10:47,510 coats you know large people jumping out 218 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:49,700 in front of cars or whatever people get 219 00:10:53,650 --> 00:10:52,130 these it's just it's just crazy what's 220 00:10:54,850 --> 00:10:53,660 going on in the world Tim Schwartz was 221 00:10:58,510 --> 00:10:54,860 tonight on Ground Zero the numbers you 222 00:11:00,640 --> 00:10:58,520 call triple 8 673 3700 that's triple 8 6 223 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:00,650 7 3 3700 have you had an encounter with 224 00:11:05,050 --> 00:11:03,410 an MIB or a man in black or something 225 00:11:07,660 --> 00:11:05,060 that would be considered a a shadow 226 00:11:09,340 --> 00:11:07,670 entity or a dark entity who knows moving 227 00:11:10,810 --> 00:11:09,350 on the side of the road or standing in 228 00:11:16,190 --> 00:11:10,820 front of you it's just creepy triple 8 229 00:11:21,769 --> 00:11:18,230 Nate writes me my wife and I were 230 00:11:23,930 --> 00:11:21,779 driving i-25 four years ago almost hit a 231 00:11:26,210 --> 00:11:23,940 man walking down the white line dividing 232 00:11:29,629 --> 00:11:26,220 lanes wearing a black trench coat it was 233 00:11:31,370 --> 00:11:29,639 shocking I guess the guy disappeared but 234 00:11:32,569 --> 00:11:31,380 Tim Schwartz with us tonight you know 235 00:11:35,780 --> 00:11:32,579 when we're talking about the men in 236 00:11:39,889 --> 00:11:35,790 black I have well I can say this I have 237 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:39,899 met at least well one person who claimed 238 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:42,570 to be a man in black talked with him 239 00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:44,370 interviewed him a bit and found out what 240 00:11:49,430 --> 00:11:46,649 he was all about and then I I've seen 241 00:11:52,329 --> 00:11:49,440 men in black or I saw a group of men in 242 00:11:54,439 --> 00:11:52,339 black walking along a Portland Street 243 00:11:56,810 --> 00:11:54,449 actually it was in an area where there 244 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:56,820 was this bar so I'm walking around was 245 00:11:59,840 --> 00:11:58,290 kind of shocked that I saw him and then 246 00:12:02,629 --> 00:11:59,850 he just disappeared couldn't find him 247 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:02,639 after that and I always ask myself since 248 00:12:05,990 --> 00:12:04,290 you know that I would say the men in 249 00:12:07,670 --> 00:12:06,000 black are pretty much flesh and blood 250 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:07,680 but there are those who say that these 251 00:12:11,139 --> 00:12:09,690 dark entities these shadow entities more 252 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:11,149 like men and black entities are 253 00:12:15,769 --> 00:12:13,410 supernatural or many say they're like 254 00:12:18,379 --> 00:12:15,779 the mock men which they are almost like 255 00:12:19,910 --> 00:12:18,389 robots which they act weird they don't 256 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:19,920 act human they act kind of like that 257 00:12:23,780 --> 00:12:22,529 they've been programmed what do you say 258 00:12:26,780 --> 00:12:23,790 Tim what do you think they are 259 00:12:28,340 --> 00:12:26,790 well actually quiet eyes I think it's 260 00:12:32,560 --> 00:12:28,350 like a little bit of a column and a 261 00:12:36,860 --> 00:12:32,570 little bit from column B I do think that 262 00:12:38,540 --> 00:12:36,870 there is you know I don't know whether 263 00:12:39,769 --> 00:12:38,550 it be a branch of an intelligence 264 00:12:43,189 --> 00:12:39,779 service or something just completely 265 00:12:45,170 --> 00:12:43,199 outside of you know what we think of as 266 00:12:49,670 --> 00:12:45,180 you know like normal government or 267 00:12:54,470 --> 00:12:49,680 military operations that maybe somewhere 268 00:12:56,930 --> 00:12:54,480 along the line has started to adopt the 269 00:12:58,519 --> 00:12:56,940 the ideals that people were reporting 270 00:13:01,100 --> 00:12:58,529 about them in a black you know because 271 00:13:03,019 --> 00:13:01,110 they saw that it was getting attention 272 00:13:05,210 --> 00:13:03,029 and it seemed to be effective and they 273 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:05,220 actually you know started to you know 274 00:13:11,210 --> 00:13:08,610 deploy people dressed in black that used 275 00:13:15,250 --> 00:13:11,220 the same kind of techniques I do think 276 00:13:18,050 --> 00:13:15,260 however that based on a number of 277 00:13:20,329 --> 00:13:18,060 reports that I've read about and reports 278 00:13:24,620 --> 00:13:20,339 of people that personally people have 279 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:24,630 told me that there seems to be 280 00:13:29,690 --> 00:13:27,450 and you know I use this word you know 281 00:13:31,870 --> 00:13:29,700 Apple quotation marks around it you love 282 00:13:34,340 --> 00:13:31,880 it of a supernatural or paranormal 283 00:13:36,350 --> 00:13:34,350 element and of course you know I mean 284 00:13:38,740 --> 00:13:36,360 you know what I say that it just means 285 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:38,750 that we just don't quite understand 286 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:41,490 what's what's actually going on you know 287 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:43,170 a lot of people when you use the word 288 00:13:47,330 --> 00:13:44,970 paranormal is supernatural you know 289 00:13:48,710 --> 00:13:47,340 their eyes kind of glaze over and like I 290 00:13:51,590 --> 00:13:48,720 yeah you're just telling you know ghost 291 00:13:56,690 --> 00:13:51,600 stories but a lot of these men and black 292 00:14:00,050 --> 00:13:56,700 reports are very much like like ghosts 293 00:14:02,710 --> 00:14:00,060 or the shadow people or or just that 294 00:14:05,870 --> 00:14:02,720 there's this something not quite human 295 00:14:09,230 --> 00:14:05,880 about them you know the the recent 296 00:14:12,590 --> 00:14:09,240 uptick of people seen black-eyed 297 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:12,600 children that's very reminiscent of a 298 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:15,930 lot of the the the earlier men in black 299 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:20,010 reports because a lot of these cases the 300 00:14:26,090 --> 00:14:22,890 the men in black would say would show up 301 00:14:28,130 --> 00:14:26,100 at your door and ask to be invited in 302 00:14:29,630 --> 00:14:28,140 and you know despite the fact that you 303 00:14:31,250 --> 00:14:29,640 know here's some strange-looking people 304 00:14:34,010 --> 00:14:31,260 on your front doorstep you've never seen 305 00:14:35,900 --> 00:14:34,020 them before most people will just open 306 00:14:37,850 --> 00:14:35,910 their door and yeah come on in and then 307 00:14:43,510 --> 00:14:37,860 afterwards they'll say I don't know why 308 00:14:46,070 --> 00:14:43,520 I did that I guess you feel sorry for 309 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:46,080 these black-eyed children are these 310 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:48,090 entities in fact I remember when I first 311 00:14:51,950 --> 00:14:50,490 heard of the the black-eyed children in 312 00:14:53,420 --> 00:14:51,960 fact it came here from the northwest 313 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:53,430 somebody was actually stopping to get 314 00:14:57,140 --> 00:14:55,410 beer and a child comes up and knocks on 315 00:14:58,550 --> 00:14:57,150 the window and said you know let me in 316 00:15:00,110 --> 00:14:58,560 take me home and then when they took 317 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:00,120 them to what believed what they believed 318 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:02,370 was his house he walked out and said 319 00:15:05,780 --> 00:15:03,570 thank you when they looked again he was 320 00:15:07,070 --> 00:15:05,790 gone and they thought he'd disappeared 321 00:15:09,260 --> 00:15:07,080 same with these men and black they're 322 00:15:10,670 --> 00:15:09,270 being seen in Iowa you know they blink 323 00:15:11,570 --> 00:15:10,680 and you miss them or they jump out in 324 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:11,580 front of the car you're free you're 325 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:13,050 gonna drive off the road police just say 326 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:14,130 we don't know what is but a lot of 327 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:16,050 people are claiming they're seeing these 328 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:18,090 men in black which makes me realize that 329 00:15:21,950 --> 00:15:20,370 you know there was a time with the g-men 330 00:15:23,030 --> 00:15:21,960 there was a time of these agents who 331 00:15:24,830 --> 00:15:23,040 were going in and telling people you 332 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:24,840 didn't see anything no ufos or whatever 333 00:15:28,580 --> 00:15:27,330 you see the cartoonish men in black in 334 00:15:30,740 --> 00:15:28,590 the theaters when you go to the movies 335 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:30,750 you see Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones 336 00:15:33,860 --> 00:15:32,970 is the agents in the men in black and 337 00:15:35,990 --> 00:15:33,870 people seem to think there's some 338 00:15:38,270 --> 00:15:36,000 cartoon insanity but I 339 00:15:40,970 --> 00:15:38,280 appeared on shows I was on American 340 00:15:42,380 --> 00:15:40,980 monsters on a destination America and I 341 00:15:43,730 --> 00:15:42,390 thought you know from what I've 342 00:15:45,740 --> 00:15:43,740 experienced where I've seen is that the 343 00:15:47,540 --> 00:15:45,750 men in black will do anything maybe they 344 00:15:48,890 --> 00:15:47,550 would even harm you and there's so many 345 00:15:50,510 --> 00:15:48,900 different I guess you get 346 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:50,520 personifications of this man in black 347 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:52,170 anything you mentioned like the 348 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:54,090 black-eyed children's one the shadow 349 00:15:59,420 --> 00:15:55,890 entities there's also the grinning man 350 00:16:00,530 --> 00:15:59,430 which at one time we did a show in fact 351 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:00,540 we can even open up calls for the 352 00:16:05,180 --> 00:16:02,730 grinning man people dream about the 353 00:16:06,890 --> 00:16:05,190 grinning man they they see the grinning 354 00:16:08,870 --> 00:16:06,900 man standing there looking over them in 355 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:08,880 their sleep and he has this grin on his 356 00:16:12,050 --> 00:16:10,770 face like he's about to eat you or he 357 00:16:14,570 --> 00:16:12,060 has his grin on his face it's kind of an 358 00:16:15,770 --> 00:16:14,580 evil smirk and people dream about this 359 00:16:17,750 --> 00:16:15,780 and they can't get it out of their heads 360 00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:17,760 and I remember I had a dream about the 361 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:19,680 grinning man once and it was very creepy 362 00:16:23,630 --> 00:16:21,450 and I told somebody this story while a 363 00:16:25,700 --> 00:16:23,640 couple days ago as a matter of fact I 364 00:16:28,790 --> 00:16:25,710 was actually this is my dream I was 365 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:28,800 actually in this meadow or this this 366 00:16:33,590 --> 00:16:31,050 farm area kind of like Iowa I guess in 367 00:16:37,430 --> 00:16:33,600 this farm area and what I saw was this 368 00:16:39,530 --> 00:16:37,440 beautiful sunset and if this beautiful 369 00:16:41,540 --> 00:16:39,540 sunset farm area I looked and I saw this 370 00:16:42,770 --> 00:16:41,550 you know those old windmills that you 371 00:16:44,690 --> 00:16:42,780 know at farms and they're kind of 372 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:44,700 creaking and it's black silhouetted 373 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:46,770 against the sunset and see this little 374 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:49,530 farmhouse and and I could smell the 375 00:16:53,510 --> 00:16:51,570 grass I could hear that mosquitos 376 00:16:55,940 --> 00:16:53,520 buzzing and all this and then all of a 377 00:16:59,360 --> 00:16:55,950 sudden I heard something like the the 378 00:17:01,190 --> 00:16:59,370 the straw behind me crack and I look 379 00:17:04,850 --> 00:17:01,200 around and standing there is this 380 00:17:07,250 --> 00:17:04,860 grinning man he was wearing overalls and 381 00:17:09,140 --> 00:17:07,260 he had white hair just white long hair 382 00:17:10,220 --> 00:17:09,150 and he had the grin on his face he 383 00:17:11,809 --> 00:17:10,230 looked at me with his grin he was 384 00:17:15,050 --> 00:17:11,819 smiling and just with a grin he reached 385 00:17:19,220 --> 00:17:15,060 up he put his hands on both the sides of 386 00:17:22,250 --> 00:17:19,230 my my head and he twisted it and I woke 387 00:17:25,250 --> 00:17:22,260 up he twisted my neck I heard the crack 388 00:17:27,380 --> 00:17:25,260 and I woke up and I woke up with my 389 00:17:29,090 --> 00:17:27,390 heart pounding and terrified because it 390 00:17:30,830 --> 00:17:29,100 was just a split-second where everything 391 00:17:33,590 --> 00:17:30,840 was just like innocent and beautiful and 392 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:33,600 pristine and then behind me lurk kiss 393 00:17:37,700 --> 00:17:35,610 grinning man with his evil grin on his 394 00:17:39,050 --> 00:17:37,710 face and they say that you know if you 395 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:39,060 see the grinning man in your dreams that 396 00:17:41,570 --> 00:17:40,290 means something terrible is going to 397 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:41,580 happen to somebody you know or it's 398 00:17:44,930 --> 00:17:43,530 already happened to someone but I don't 399 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:44,940 even remember I don't even recall what 400 00:17:48,869 --> 00:17:46,690 happened after I saw this but there's so 401 00:17:50,340 --> 00:17:48,879 terrifying to be there in this pristine 402 00:17:52,169 --> 00:17:50,350 area feeling all safe and secure and 403 00:17:54,299 --> 00:17:52,179 then looking behind me there's this man 404 00:17:56,039 --> 00:17:54,309 with white hair wearing coveralls who's 405 00:17:57,690 --> 00:17:56,049 wearing colors look like a farmer you 406 00:17:59,850 --> 00:17:57,700 know you could have been a farmer like I 407 00:18:01,919 --> 00:17:59,860 was on some farmers land he steadied it 408 00:18:04,289 --> 00:18:01,929 with his grinning face and he had long 409 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:04,299 white hair and kinda like Uncle Sam 410 00:18:07,950 --> 00:18:06,370 without the goatee comes up and looks me 411 00:18:10,379 --> 00:18:07,960 right in the face and smiles at me like 412 00:18:12,990 --> 00:18:10,389 yeah I I really think you're you're 413 00:18:15,749 --> 00:18:13,000 wonderful kind of a weird creepy you 414 00:18:17,100 --> 00:18:15,759 know no spirit type of smile takes and 415 00:18:19,019 --> 00:18:17,110 grabs my head and just twist my neck 416 00:18:20,940 --> 00:18:19,029 until my neck breaks and it just it 417 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:20,950 frightened me and woke me up and you 418 00:18:25,139 --> 00:18:22,690 know and that's different incarnations 419 00:18:27,450 --> 00:18:25,149 of the men in black myth and craziness 420 00:18:28,769 --> 00:18:27,460 in it and I and I tell you even talk 421 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:28,779 about an else got me choked up and 422 00:18:33,539 --> 00:18:30,730 frightened but the mi B's the men in 423 00:18:34,889 --> 00:18:33,549 black in Iowa they're seeing them now on 424 00:18:38,879 --> 00:18:34,899 the road police have been investigating 425 00:18:41,220 --> 00:18:38,889 this in Muscatine Iowa it's a county 426 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:41,230 have you seen crazy men in black in the 427 00:18:49,090 --> 00:18:43,210 grinning man will be back nice flight 428 00:18:53,590 --> 00:18:51,430 tonight the men in black just what are 429 00:18:56,919 --> 00:18:53,600 they reports have been in black 430 00:19:01,090 --> 00:18:56,929 appearing in Iowa startling motorists in 431 00:19:05,670 --> 00:19:01,100 a rural highway police are investigating 432 00:19:10,110 --> 00:19:07,650 and it gives us reason to discuss the 433 00:19:10,110 --> 00:19:10,120 men in black 434 00:19:14,700 --> 00:19:12,149 and the nightmare that exists inside all 435 00:19:17,070 --> 00:19:14,710 of us comes from the most primitive side 436 00:19:19,830 --> 00:19:17,080 of the brain it's horror that exists 437 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:19,840 between dream time and consciousness 438 00:19:23,430 --> 00:19:22,090 it's the feeling of an ominous sense of 439 00:19:26,519 --> 00:19:23,440 doom as you realize that you are not 440 00:19:28,980 --> 00:19:26,529 alone in an otherwise safe and secure 441 00:19:31,950 --> 00:19:28,990 place it's even more chilling when you 442 00:19:33,510 --> 00:19:31,960 hear about the men in black under 443 00:19:35,519 --> 00:19:33,520 investigation because no one knows what 444 00:19:37,380 --> 00:19:35,529 they are two rural community those who 445 00:19:39,539 --> 00:19:37,390 don't know what's going on in Iowa now 446 00:19:41,279 --> 00:19:39,549 they are seeing or residents they are 447 00:19:43,889 --> 00:19:41,289 worried because the men in black are 448 00:19:45,419 --> 00:19:43,899 appearing on roadsides some of them are 449 00:19:47,399 --> 00:19:45,429 even jumping in front of traffic here's 450 00:19:49,860 --> 00:19:47,409 the report a top story tonight men in 451 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:49,870 black trench coats jumping out of cars 452 00:19:54,389 --> 00:19:51,970 driving a dyke thanks for joining us I'm 453 00:19:55,769 --> 00:19:54,399 Gary the TVA and Paula sands police in 454 00:19:57,539 --> 00:19:55,779 Muscatine are trying to get to the 455 00:20:00,149 --> 00:19:57,549 bottom of this these reports about this 456 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:00,159 mysterious several men in black out on 457 00:20:03,330 --> 00:20:01,450 the roads at night sometimes stepping 458 00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:03,340 right out in front of cars as they pass 459 00:20:07,830 --> 00:20:05,710 by the bus 15 County sheriff's office 460 00:20:09,389 --> 00:20:07,840 also says they have officers patrolling 461 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:09,399 the areas where these men have already 462 00:20:13,950 --> 00:20:12,610 been spotted Tim Schwartz with us 463 00:20:15,029 --> 00:20:13,960 tonight on ground sir you know after 464 00:20:16,799 --> 00:20:15,039 let's see our report I've been hearing 465 00:20:20,549 --> 00:20:16,809 that report about the men in black in 466 00:20:22,980 --> 00:20:20,559 Iowa and you did a search on Google Maps 467 00:20:26,730 --> 00:20:22,990 and you found that it was a very it's a 468 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:26,740 rural area there so okay so these men in 469 00:20:30,870 --> 00:20:28,210 black are appearing on the side of the 470 00:20:32,669 --> 00:20:30,880 road they are scaring people driving 471 00:20:35,010 --> 00:20:32,679 down the road at night they step in 472 00:20:36,899 --> 00:20:35,020 front of traffic and they almost get hit 473 00:20:40,470 --> 00:20:36,909 they don't get yet okay there's been no 474 00:20:42,750 --> 00:20:40,480 fatalities question I have is if I were 475 00:20:44,190 --> 00:20:42,760 to see a man in a trench coat or in a 476 00:20:46,110 --> 00:20:44,200 black cape standing on the side of the 477 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:46,120 road or at least walking in front of my 478 00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:48,850 vehicle I would stop the vehicle I would 479 00:20:53,519 --> 00:20:51,760 get out to see just who is in the trench 480 00:20:55,860 --> 00:20:53,529 coat or in the cape and I would try to 481 00:20:58,889 --> 00:20:55,870 tell them or at least confront them 482 00:21:00,450 --> 00:20:58,899 let's see where would they hide if they 483 00:21:04,019 --> 00:21:00,460 were to do this I mean if the motorists 484 00:21:05,399 --> 00:21:04,029 see them and they almost hit them where 485 00:21:06,630 --> 00:21:05,409 are they hiding so they can't be found 486 00:21:08,820 --> 00:21:06,640 and why did the police say that's a 487 00:21:11,010 --> 00:21:08,830 prank done my teenagers when you know 488 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:11,020 they can't find them or the people who 489 00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:12,490 see them don't pull over and say well 490 00:21:15,899 --> 00:21:13,929 what's going on here that's the thing I 491 00:21:18,090 --> 00:21:15,909 don't understand well and you have to 492 00:21:20,940 --> 00:21:18,100 realize also Clyde that you know in this 493 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:20,950 day and age of social media in a small 494 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:22,530 area like that 495 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:24,450 if teenagers were involved it wouldn't 496 00:21:28,610 --> 00:21:25,770 be too long before they'll be bragging 497 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:28,620 about it you know on a snapchat or 498 00:21:34,250 --> 00:21:32,610 Facebook and you know the the kind it 499 00:21:36,890 --> 00:21:34,260 suit it will spread through the 500 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:36,900 community who's actually responsible but 501 00:21:43,940 --> 00:21:40,290 if you baseless on other instances 502 00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:43,950 throughout history probably nothing will 503 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:45,840 ever be discovered nobody will ever 504 00:21:50,690 --> 00:21:48,450 admit to to have you know been 505 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:50,700 responsible for this the police may 506 00:21:54,890 --> 00:21:53,010 actually go and arrest a couple of kids 507 00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:54,900 and say how we solved it but that a 508 00:21:58,640 --> 00:21:57,120 couple of weeks later you'll find out 509 00:22:01,640 --> 00:21:58,650 that you know these kids weren't really 510 00:22:03,910 --> 00:22:01,650 responsible and you know it'll just go 511 00:22:06,350 --> 00:22:03,920 down in the annals of history as being 512 00:22:07,790 --> 00:22:06,360 unsolved now the point that you made 513 00:22:09,650 --> 00:22:07,800 about you know you would stop the car 514 00:22:11,570 --> 00:22:09,660 and you don't get out and you know see 515 00:22:13,820 --> 00:22:11,580 what was going on you know a lot of 516 00:22:17,060 --> 00:22:13,830 people who have these kinds of 517 00:22:22,370 --> 00:22:17,070 experiences they're there suddenly hits 518 00:22:25,310 --> 00:22:22,380 you know with gosh overwhelming feelings 519 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:25,320 of fear and and and terror in a 520 00:22:30,890 --> 00:22:27,810 situation like then you know I mean it's 521 00:22:31,610 --> 00:22:30,900 just completely they'll say afterwards 522 00:22:33,380 --> 00:22:31,620 you know it's just completely 523 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:33,390 unreasonable I mean you know they sure 524 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:35,730 it's kind of a weird situation but I 525 00:22:39,980 --> 00:22:38,490 felt like that I was going to die what a 526 00:22:41,630 --> 00:22:39,990 lot of people say and they'll just hit 527 00:22:43,370 --> 00:22:41,640 the accelerator and get the heck out of 528 00:22:45,470 --> 00:22:43,380 there and quickly as they possibly get 529 00:22:46,670 --> 00:22:45,480 well and I was having a discussion and 530 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:46,680 that's why I find it interesting that 531 00:22:50,150 --> 00:22:48,810 this story is finally it made a 532 00:22:53,300 --> 00:22:50,160 mainstream I was having a discussion 533 00:22:54,890 --> 00:22:53,310 with a gentleman that was at Sunday as a 534 00:22:57,410 --> 00:22:54,900 matter of fact it was during the game I 535 00:22:59,150 --> 00:22:57,420 was having wings with Liam my son we 536 00:23:00,950 --> 00:22:59,160 were standing there getting wings this 537 00:23:03,380 --> 00:23:00,960 guy recognized me and he was telling me 538 00:23:05,660 --> 00:23:03,390 about how after he got back from his 539 00:23:09,020 --> 00:23:05,670 tour in Iraq he said that he was having 540 00:23:11,300 --> 00:23:09,030 these vivid dreams of a shadow entity 541 00:23:12,770 --> 00:23:11,310 over his bed and he said he would wake 542 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:12,780 up and he would see it looking down at 543 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:14,610 him grinning at him looking as if it 544 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:16,890 wanted to harm him and I was thinking 545 00:23:20,150 --> 00:23:18,450 wow what you know this is an amazing 546 00:23:21,590 --> 00:23:20,160 story it's a scary story I mean I've 547 00:23:23,270 --> 00:23:21,600 heard people talking about the incubi 548 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:23,280 and succubi and I've had them talk about 549 00:23:27,290 --> 00:23:25,290 all these things with me and how these 550 00:23:29,030 --> 00:23:27,300 spirits show up in the bed or they show 551 00:23:30,410 --> 00:23:29,040 up on the side in a closet and they're 552 00:23:32,690 --> 00:23:30,420 hiding there and they're grinning or 553 00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:32,700 laughing one guy even called one night 554 00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:34,080 we were talking about as he said he bit 555 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:34,559 one 556 00:23:39,889 --> 00:23:38,129 he bid it he said it was just a strange 557 00:23:42,769 --> 00:23:39,899 sensation in his mouth when he bit the 558 00:23:44,269 --> 00:23:42,779 thing and and but it was odd that this 559 00:23:45,409 --> 00:23:44,279 out of nowhere this gentleman was 560 00:23:47,239 --> 00:23:45,419 telling me the story about a shadow 561 00:23:50,239 --> 00:23:47,249 entity that appeared to him and I was 562 00:23:52,430 --> 00:23:50,249 reminiscing back that you know a lot of 563 00:23:55,340 --> 00:23:52,440 these dark entities whether they be the 564 00:23:58,580 --> 00:23:55,350 the men in black that we see in UFO 565 00:24:00,139 --> 00:23:58,590 stories or perhaps like the Hat man many 566 00:24:02,810 --> 00:24:00,149 people talk about the Hat man now that's 567 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:02,820 another story that has come about 568 00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:05,730 Slender Man a Tulpa the became it was 569 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:07,049 created on a website and became a 570 00:24:11,570 --> 00:24:08,610 reality for two little girls who wanted 571 00:24:14,239 --> 00:24:11,580 to commit murder these dark denizens 572 00:24:16,639 --> 00:24:14,249 have have come from bad dreams and into 573 00:24:18,350 --> 00:24:16,649 our reality and when you look at the 574 00:24:20,779 --> 00:24:18,360 shadowy archetypes that have been known 575 00:24:22,159 --> 00:24:20,789 by by all of these names they give them 576 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:22,169 the boogeyman names everything from the 577 00:24:26,450 --> 00:24:24,570 men in black to hat man - you know - 578 00:24:28,039 --> 00:24:26,460 Slender Man - the rake and in fact in 579 00:24:30,019 --> 00:24:28,049 this new movie the conjuring - they have 580 00:24:31,820 --> 00:24:30,029 the Crooked Man which is another 581 00:24:33,109 --> 00:24:31,830 character that's kind of creepy and it 582 00:24:34,430 --> 00:24:33,119 shows up and give me the willies this 583 00:24:37,389 --> 00:24:34,440 thing about it looked kind of like 584 00:24:40,669 --> 00:24:37,399 Slenderman so we have the same type of 585 00:24:43,009 --> 00:24:40,679 being that is seen by everyone and it 586 00:24:45,710 --> 00:24:43,019 makes me wonder if it's a default in in 587 00:24:48,230 --> 00:24:45,720 some respects or that there are many 588 00:24:49,820 --> 00:24:48,240 forms of this this boogeyman that is the 589 00:24:53,060 --> 00:24:49,830 dark man I mean I know that there are 590 00:24:54,919 --> 00:24:53,070 stories Native American stories of the 591 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:54,929 black clothes man of the forest and how 592 00:24:59,299 --> 00:24:57,330 he's scared that many European tales are 593 00:25:01,369 --> 00:24:59,309 about these dark men or these these 594 00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:01,379 these black hooded men that walk the 595 00:25:06,859 --> 00:25:03,840 streets some say they're like vampires 596 00:25:09,409 --> 00:25:06,869 others say they eat human flesh and 597 00:25:12,259 --> 00:25:09,419 livestock I mean this legend all the way 598 00:25:14,330 --> 00:25:12,269 up to the reality is something that I 599 00:25:14,989 --> 00:25:14,340 think says something about who we are 600 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:14,999 don't you think 601 00:25:20,149 --> 00:25:17,850 oh very much so I I really do think that 602 00:25:24,049 --> 00:25:20,159 these entities whatever they are are 603 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:24,059 shaped by our social expectations you 604 00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:26,850 know it's the the Chinese would call 605 00:25:31,399 --> 00:25:29,039 these creatures especially you know like 606 00:25:32,659 --> 00:25:31,409 the black-eyed children and and and and 607 00:25:35,810 --> 00:25:32,669 the men obliged they would call them 608 00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:35,820 Hungry Ghost because they're there they 609 00:25:39,409 --> 00:25:37,710 attempt to get into your house for 610 00:25:41,539 --> 00:25:39,419 whatever reason but they have to ask 611 00:25:43,490 --> 00:25:41,549 permission first it's it's it's like the 612 00:25:45,169 --> 00:25:43,500 old vampire legends you know where the 613 00:25:46,180 --> 00:25:45,179 vampire would stand outside the house 614 00:25:52,180 --> 00:25:46,190 and 615 00:25:53,740 --> 00:25:52,190 invited in you know but we're see we're 616 00:25:56,620 --> 00:25:53,750 not supposed to believe in vampires 617 00:25:59,620 --> 00:25:56,630 anymore but yet we're seeing these very 618 00:26:01,000 --> 00:25:59,630 same type of creatures but I mean 619 00:26:02,860 --> 00:26:01,010 they've taken on a more modern 620 00:26:05,170 --> 00:26:02,870 appearance in the 21st century you know 621 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:05,180 uh parents yet they're playing the same 622 00:26:09,130 --> 00:26:06,890 games that they played you know a 623 00:26:10,750 --> 00:26:09,140 thousand years ago I was even reading 624 00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:10,760 that there are entities now that have 625 00:26:14,140 --> 00:26:12,080 been seeing that the black-eyed children 626 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:14,150 the men in black we have the grinning 627 00:26:17,140 --> 00:26:15,530 man we have Slender Man we have all 628 00:26:18,340 --> 00:26:17,150 these characters that apparently people 629 00:26:19,630 --> 00:26:18,350 see or the experience or they're 630 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:19,640 frightened of in their sleeper in their 631 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:21,650 nightmares or they see them on the road 632 00:26:25,060 --> 00:26:23,330 you know and yet there was another 633 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:25,070 account that I was reading that there 634 00:26:30,370 --> 00:26:27,530 are women now that are seen there they 635 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:30,380 wear black eyeglasses they're pale and 636 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:31,850 they wear wigs and they look they they 637 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:33,530 say they look like they've had cancer 638 00:26:38,110 --> 00:26:36,170 and and they're very like you know the 639 00:26:39,610 --> 00:26:38,120 skins kind of wrinkled and kind of gray 640 00:26:42,430 --> 00:26:39,620 and some people say they even look alien 641 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:42,440 like and they're wearing sunglasses and 642 00:26:45,940 --> 00:26:43,610 they're wearing black and and they 643 00:26:48,190 --> 00:26:45,950 appear and the thing is this is classic 644 00:26:50,350 --> 00:26:48,200 ghoulish nough something that i think 645 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:50,360 comes from the consciousness i think 646 00:26:54,550 --> 00:26:52,490 that if we're all in this in this 647 00:26:57,490 --> 00:26:54,560 darkness which it seems the world is 648 00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:57,500 heading towards these manifestations if 649 00:27:01,060 --> 00:26:58,730 you believe in Tulpa man saying these 650 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:01,070 manifestations can appear and many 651 00:27:04,930 --> 00:27:03,290 people are dreaming about them they're 652 00:27:06,130 --> 00:27:04,940 experiencing them they're seeing them 653 00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:06,140 like here and I would have seemed on the 654 00:27:09,700 --> 00:27:08,270 side of the road I mean this is 655 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:09,710 something I think that says something 656 00:27:14,410 --> 00:27:11,450 about who we are and what we're going 657 00:27:16,540 --> 00:27:14,420 through right now very much so and you 658 00:27:19,540 --> 00:27:16,550 mentioned the the you know the the women 659 00:27:22,390 --> 00:27:19,550 in black I mean there have been we use 660 00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:22,400 the term in black as I mean that's just 661 00:27:25,210 --> 00:27:24,080 kind of a catch-all phrase but I mean 662 00:27:27,850 --> 00:27:25,220 right right from the very beginning 663 00:27:30,130 --> 00:27:27,860 there have been reports of women in 664 00:27:31,660 --> 00:27:30,140 black you know rather than the maybe the 665 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:31,670 traditional three men in black you would 666 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:33,650 have like two men and a woman or 667 00:27:38,110 --> 00:27:36,410 sometimes just a man or a woman or as 668 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:38,120 you had in Great Britain back in the 669 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:40,010 1980s you know you had what we called 670 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:42,290 the phantom social workers oh yeah which 671 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:44,690 which were traditionally women who had 672 00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:47,210 come to generally it would be like a 673 00:27:51,150 --> 00:27:48,880 single mothers 674 00:27:52,380 --> 00:27:51,160 door and knock and you know ask then 675 00:27:53,970 --> 00:27:52,390 they said their you know they were from 676 00:27:55,410 --> 00:27:53,980 the you know the social services and 677 00:27:56,820 --> 00:27:55,420 that there'd been reports that the 678 00:27:59,910 --> 00:27:56,830 babies have been abused and they were 679 00:28:02,790 --> 00:27:59,920 gonna take them with it right and but 680 00:28:04,410 --> 00:28:02,800 when the you know when the mother would 681 00:28:06,030 --> 00:28:04,420 go and then call social services 682 00:28:07,740 --> 00:28:06,040 you know nobody had been set out there 683 00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:07,750 right yet nobody was able to trace these 684 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:09,520 women down well and it's also triggered 685 00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:11,650 the satanic panic of the 80s as well are 686 00:28:16,140 --> 00:28:13,110 people who say they were Satanists 687 00:28:18,150 --> 00:28:16,150 taking them the children away and now we 688 00:28:20,190 --> 00:28:18,160 know the truth about the the so-called 689 00:28:21,870 --> 00:28:20,200 pedophile rings of England that may have 690 00:28:23,670 --> 00:28:21,880 been there in the 80s which is 691 00:28:25,410 --> 00:28:23,680 frightening to these social workers 692 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:25,420 these phantom satanic social workers 693 00:28:29,070 --> 00:28:27,250 could have been very real and not some 694 00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:29,080 entity but people are experiencing these 695 00:28:31,650 --> 00:28:30,640 things maybe you've experienced them - 696 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:31,660 we'd like to hear your phone calls 697 00:28:36,330 --> 00:28:34,450 tonight at triple-eight 673 3700 would 698 00:28:38,940 --> 00:28:36,340 trigger this conversation men in black 699 00:28:41,340 --> 00:28:38,950 seen on a country road in Iowa police 700 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:41,350 are investigating I can't find what is 701 00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:42,850 going on they think it's a prank but 702 00:28:47,130 --> 00:28:44,710 they can't trace it especially with 703 00:28:48,780 --> 00:28:47,140 small rural community trip releasing 7 3 704 00:28:50,700 --> 00:28:48,790 3700 we'll be back 705 00:28:52,830 --> 00:28:50,710 hey Tim I can't pass up this call I want 706 00:28:55,050 --> 00:28:52,840 to go right - it's go to Ryan in Texas 707 00:29:00,780 --> 00:28:55,060 hi Ryan you say you're a sheriff tell us 708 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:00,790 about what you've experienced 2013 about 709 00:29:07,140 --> 00:29:04,050 the same time of the year either late or 710 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:07,150 late June early July and I was 711 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:09,370 patrolling a rural road part of our 712 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:10,810 County that has no houses on it 713 00:29:17,820 --> 00:29:14,290 whatsoever very remote and I was riding 714 00:29:20,070 --> 00:29:17,830 down the road and all of a sudden I saw 715 00:29:23,070 --> 00:29:20,080 somebody on the side of the road at a 716 00:29:25,050 --> 00:29:23,080 distance as I got closer I realized it 717 00:29:27,090 --> 00:29:25,060 was somebody can off all black like 718 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:27,100 float there's going back and explain 719 00:29:30,630 --> 00:29:28,930 today I had a hood on it flowed down his 720 00:29:32,850 --> 00:29:30,640 body I couldn't see any arms continued 721 00:29:34,650 --> 00:29:32,860 legs and all the way the ground and as I 722 00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:34,660 passed the subject it turned and looked 723 00:29:40,620 --> 00:29:38,710 towards me and doing my job I want to 724 00:29:41,940 --> 00:29:40,630 turn around or make contact with them 725 00:29:45,570 --> 00:29:41,950 and see who they are what they're doing 726 00:29:48,150 --> 00:29:45,580 out here and help or whatnot and I went 727 00:29:52,230 --> 00:29:48,160 maybe 40 yards past where I saw him 728 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:52,240 turned around it was going so I thought 729 00:29:55,650 --> 00:29:54,010 well maybe they ran from me were you 730 00:29:58,770 --> 00:29:55,660 able to see this were you able to 731 00:30:01,320 --> 00:29:58,780 display the facial features on what it 732 00:30:02,530 --> 00:30:01,330 was was looking at you no facial 733 00:30:04,150 --> 00:30:02,540 features whatsoever 734 00:30:06,430 --> 00:30:04,160 just kind of turned to where I could see 735 00:30:08,830 --> 00:30:06,440 like the the hood of the cloak is the 736 00:30:12,340 --> 00:30:08,840 blacks hole in the hood the cloak that I 737 00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:12,350 could see and it just is the eerie 738 00:30:16,330 --> 00:30:13,760 feeling when I turned and looked at me 739 00:30:18,450 --> 00:30:16,340 and but I couldn't see any facial 740 00:30:20,860 --> 00:30:18,460 features or anything like that at all 741 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:20,870 there was no place for it to hide is 742 00:30:25,630 --> 00:30:21,890 that what you're telling me too that 743 00:30:27,130 --> 00:30:25,640 there was no way it could have both on 744 00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:27,140 both sides of the road opening cow 745 00:30:31,330 --> 00:30:28,880 pasture for several hundred yards before 746 00:30:33,790 --> 00:30:31,340 there was in woods or any brush and I 747 00:30:35,380 --> 00:30:33,800 spotlight at the whole area drove back 748 00:30:38,740 --> 00:30:35,390 and forth several times I've never found 749 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:38,750 anybody Tim you have anything to add to 750 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:40,610 this because this is this is creeping me 751 00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:41,090 out a little 752 00:30:48,130 --> 00:30:46,310 oh yeah sure story er well I want to 753 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:48,140 know is I mean do you know have there 754 00:30:53,950 --> 00:30:50,450 been other reports of strange things 755 00:30:56,110 --> 00:30:53,960 going on in that area in the past you 756 00:30:58,510 --> 00:30:56,120 know traditionally an area you know the 757 00:31:00,370 --> 00:30:58,520 teenagers always know where you know the 758 00:31:02,110 --> 00:31:00,380 ghost star you know on the look like the 759 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:02,120 haunted roads and things like that I 760 00:31:13,860 --> 00:31:03,650 mean do you are you aware of anything 761 00:31:19,420 --> 00:31:17,500 anything about no mysterious or weird 762 00:31:20,770 --> 00:31:19,430 going on out there do you have to report 763 00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:20,780 something like that Ryan or did you just 764 00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:22,510 keep it to yourself 765 00:31:27,310 --> 00:31:25,910 no I didn't I didn't have to report I 766 00:31:30,130 --> 00:31:27,320 didn't even put it out over the radio 767 00:31:31,750 --> 00:31:30,140 just because I I wouldn't have if I were 768 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:31,760 to make contact with the person but I 769 00:31:36,430 --> 00:31:34,010 never was a person or thing or whatever 770 00:31:40,540 --> 00:31:36,440 it was I never saw it again after I 771 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:40,550 passed the first time since Korea yeah 772 00:31:45,970 --> 00:31:43,010 it uh it bit shook me up for a couple 773 00:31:48,430 --> 00:31:45,980 days really and truly a few nights later 774 00:31:51,490 --> 00:31:48,440 I worked the same area down the road and 775 00:31:52,990 --> 00:31:51,500 I had this just kind of the Ian crawl on 776 00:31:55,180 --> 00:31:53,000 the back of my neck feeling as I drove 777 00:31:57,190 --> 00:31:55,190 up it down the road just just unknown 778 00:31:58,990 --> 00:31:57,200 part of it you know what was it was it 779 00:32:00,730 --> 00:31:59,000 somebody playing a prank was it 780 00:32:03,580 --> 00:32:00,740 something else I don't know kind of 781 00:32:05,830 --> 00:32:03,590 stands apart that's a kind of a little 782 00:32:07,510 --> 00:32:05,840 bit kind of a very remote area to be 783 00:32:11,740 --> 00:32:07,520 performing some prank especially in 784 00:32:14,620 --> 00:32:11,750 front of a sheriff that said that's 785 00:32:17,530 --> 00:32:14,630 that basically gives me the creeps 786 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:17,540 what's that what's that right out of 787 00:32:22,150 --> 00:32:19,130 seen their car too if it was somebody 788 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:22,160 playing jokes you know there's no way 789 00:32:25,870 --> 00:32:23,770 they could have hit a car on this road 790 00:32:27,700 --> 00:32:25,880 anywhere about to be passing it I mean 791 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:27,710 there's no side roads there's nothing 792 00:32:32,230 --> 00:32:30,890 one straight shot road Ryan your story 793 00:32:33,550 --> 00:32:32,240 just baffles me gives me the creeps 794 00:32:37,060 --> 00:32:33,560 thank you for kicking up the show 795 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:37,070 tonight I really appreciate it and thank 796 00:32:41,370 --> 00:32:38,450 you for your service as a sheriff I 797 00:32:44,740 --> 00:32:41,380 really appreciate your work thank you 798 00:32:45,910 --> 00:32:44,750 good night Ryan a Texas sheriff out the 799 00:32:48,190 --> 00:32:45,920 middle nowhere sees a cloaked figure 800 00:32:49,660 --> 00:32:48,200 standing there gives him a look he goes 801 00:32:52,660 --> 00:32:49,670 back to investigate the figure 802 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:52,670 disappears he sees no car no way anyone 803 00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:55,370 could have hoax that it just reminds me 804 00:32:59,020 --> 00:32:57,440 this story from Iowa 805 00:33:03,010 --> 00:32:59,030 Tim Schwartz with us tonight on ground 806 00:33:05,110 --> 00:33:03,020 zero triple 8 673 3,700 it's triple 867 807 00:33:08,290 --> 00:33:05,120 337 honey I'm seriously shaking that is 808 00:33:09,850 --> 00:33:08,300 a very frightening story Tim good thing 809 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:09,860 we're taking a break right down Triple 810 00:33:22,290 --> 00:33:28,989 unplug ears 811 00:33:34,689 --> 00:33:31,319 you know I give you all the talking 812 00:33:38,829 --> 00:33:34,699 about the men in black tonight I could 813 00:33:40,479 --> 00:33:38,839 also have my guest tonight Tim Schwartz 814 00:33:42,069 --> 00:33:40,489 do all the talking but before we go to 815 00:33:43,899 --> 00:33:42,079 Tim and before we talk to the callers I 816 00:33:45,339 --> 00:33:43,909 want to read something this is a 817 00:33:49,169 --> 00:33:45,349 Muscatine County Sheriff's Office 818 00:33:51,549 --> 00:33:49,179 Facebook page and it says this it says 819 00:33:53,109 --> 00:33:51,559 we've had several reports of men dressed 820 00:33:56,079 --> 00:33:53,119 in black entering the roadway in rural 821 00:33:57,669 --> 00:33:56,089 Muscatine County we don't have any new 822 00:34:01,299 --> 00:33:57,679 information about these people but we 823 00:34:02,769 --> 00:34:01,309 have also seen several posts on Facebook 824 00:34:04,509 --> 00:34:02,779 about the same type of activity it would 825 00:34:05,949 --> 00:34:04,519 be extremely helpful to the sheriff's 826 00:34:09,609 --> 00:34:05,959 office if you witnessed this type of 827 00:34:15,970 --> 00:34:09,619 activity you call 911 or help is greatly 828 00:34:19,569 --> 00:34:15,980 appreciated and there are a number of 829 00:34:22,299 --> 00:34:19,579 people who have commented about what's 830 00:34:25,539 --> 00:34:22,309 going on here and anything from there 831 00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:25,549 laughing of the sheriff's office they're 832 00:34:29,649 --> 00:34:28,129 laughing at people but there are some 833 00:34:32,259 --> 00:34:29,659 people who are very concerned because 834 00:34:34,629 --> 00:34:32,269 they say that it's been seen but these 835 00:34:38,019 --> 00:34:34,639 are these entities or whatever they may 836 00:34:41,470 --> 00:34:38,029 be have been seeing all over also seen 837 00:34:42,819 --> 00:34:41,480 in Illinois here's a guy Brad well 838 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:42,829 playing games on the side of the road 839 00:34:45,730 --> 00:34:44,210 just put people's lives in danger you 840 00:34:47,259 --> 00:34:45,740 get the wrong person to panic or get 841 00:34:50,619 --> 00:34:47,269 scared by one of these idiots jumping 842 00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:50,629 out and they get overreacted cause a car 843 00:34:55,240 --> 00:34:52,250 accident or someone does get hurt or 844 00:34:57,309 --> 00:34:55,250 worse Connie says this I'm just saying 845 00:34:59,099 --> 00:34:57,319 these fools think they're funny scaring 846 00:35:00,999 --> 00:34:59,109 people 847 00:35:02,950 --> 00:35:01,009 Beatrice writes this this is an 848 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:02,960 interesting post I would really 849 00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:06,170 appreciate it if this was made public 850 00:35:09,819 --> 00:35:08,240 through the radio TV or the journal my 851 00:35:13,150 --> 00:35:09,829 parents don't have a computer and all 852 00:35:14,589 --> 00:35:13,160 they know it's what we've told them my 853 00:35:15,849 --> 00:35:14,599 son has experienced this and it's no 854 00:35:17,529 --> 00:35:15,859 joke it was really a frightening 855 00:35:20,470 --> 00:35:17,539 experience to him and the concerns he 856 00:35:21,970 --> 00:35:20,480 has for his wife and son driving at 857 00:35:27,180 --> 00:35:21,980 night now is a concern for all of us I 858 00:35:31,089 --> 00:35:29,680 whether the image is a serious one are 859 00:35:34,650 --> 00:35:31,099 not a serious one they put an image of a 860 00:35:38,529 --> 00:35:34,660 ghost on the on the on the Facebook page 861 00:35:42,670 --> 00:35:38,539 Muscatine PD has no answers I've seen 862 00:35:45,789 --> 00:35:42,680 this it frightens me the the 863 00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:52,870 someone jokes about aliens last night 864 00:35:55,420 --> 00:35:54,049 there was a similar occurrence but it 865 00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:55,430 was on the Illinois side just outside of 866 00:36:00,720 --> 00:35:57,440 Illinois City Hunter Kimball this is the 867 00:36:03,609 --> 00:36:00,730 post I was talking about last night uh 868 00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:03,619 here's another one from Don Lane and she 869 00:36:07,660 --> 00:36:05,359 says this has been going on for a while 870 00:36:09,309 --> 00:36:07,670 my daughter and her boyfriend saw the 871 00:36:12,190 --> 00:36:09,319 men in black 3 or 4 weeks ago on highway 872 00:36:13,900 --> 00:36:12,200 22 she told me about it but didn't seem 873 00:36:15,279 --> 00:36:13,910 too concerned or I just shrug it off a 874 00:36:16,690 --> 00:36:15,289 strange occurrence she didn't seem 875 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:16,700 scared just thought it was really 876 00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:20,930 strange to me here says the only they 877 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:22,609 are only showing up during significant 878 00:36:30,430 --> 00:36:25,010 dates and events be looking for 879 00:36:33,700 --> 00:36:30,440 something to happen on June 22nd because 880 00:36:35,140 --> 00:36:33,710 of highway 22 I get they say that they 881 00:36:38,650 --> 00:36:35,150 think that something scary is going to 882 00:36:42,250 --> 00:36:38,660 happen tomorrow what do you what do you 883 00:36:44,769 --> 00:36:42,260 think of that that you know Tim that 884 00:36:48,670 --> 00:36:44,779 that is just bizarre that this has 885 00:36:51,490 --> 00:36:48,680 happened I think it's a you know I I 886 00:36:53,740 --> 00:36:51,500 just Tim's back I think we just lost 887 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:53,750 this call but you did you hear all these 888 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:56,690 people calling from actually all the 889 00:36:59,829 --> 00:36:58,130 people posting on the Facebook page for 890 00:37:02,319 --> 00:36:59,839 the for the police department saying 891 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:02,329 that the men in black that it's a very 892 00:37:05,410 --> 00:37:04,010 dangerous thing people are terrified a 893 00:37:07,210 --> 00:37:05,420 lot of people are terrified some people 894 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:07,220 are joking but others are terrified 895 00:37:09,069 --> 00:37:08,450 about this thing they're saying that 896 00:37:11,589 --> 00:37:09,079 they don't know where they're coming 897 00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:11,599 from they said they were seeing these 898 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:13,849 men in black in cemeteries they say they 899 00:37:17,650 --> 00:37:15,170 saw one guy walking around the cemetery 900 00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:17,660 with a trench coat someone else was 901 00:37:23,049 --> 00:37:20,089 saying they saw it in Illinois City on 902 00:37:24,849 --> 00:37:23,059 the Illinois side you know this is 903 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:24,859 amazing maybe they said maybe they're 904 00:37:28,690 --> 00:37:26,210 migrating hell I don't know it's just 905 00:37:30,370 --> 00:37:28,700 it's just that the police are very 906 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:30,380 serious they posted on their Facebook 907 00:37:33,940 --> 00:37:32,690 and the people are also very serious to 908 00:37:35,620 --> 00:37:33,950 try to figure out some people say it's a 909 00:37:37,630 --> 00:37:35,630 joke some people say that they're 910 00:37:40,809 --> 00:37:37,640 they're pranksters living in a hotel 911 00:37:43,930 --> 00:37:40,819 complex or some sort of hotel it's far 912 00:37:46,539 --> 00:37:43,940 away you know I don't know I mean I also 913 00:37:48,250 --> 00:37:46,549 you know the the Texas sheriff that 914 00:37:49,539 --> 00:37:48,260 called also is something that we need to 915 00:37:51,370 --> 00:37:49,549 take into account saying that he saw 916 00:37:52,870 --> 00:37:51,380 something like this and that it 917 00:37:54,069 --> 00:37:52,880 disappeared and there was no car or 918 00:37:56,349 --> 00:37:54,079 anything there was down the middle of 919 00:37:59,890 --> 00:37:56,359 nowhere whatever this thing was and a 920 00:38:01,960 --> 00:37:59,900 cloak it looked right at him well you 921 00:38:07,210 --> 00:38:01,970 know a lot of these a lot of these cases 922 00:38:08,979 --> 00:38:07,220 Clyde they they seem to be you know 923 00:38:11,829 --> 00:38:08,989 ghostly in appearance but then you'll 924 00:38:13,420 --> 00:38:11,839 turn around and as I said people will 925 00:38:16,450 --> 00:38:13,430 actually see what I mean you know 926 00:38:18,670 --> 00:38:16,460 they'll swear are you know physical you 927 00:38:20,349 --> 00:38:18,680 know people walking on one side of the 928 00:38:23,049 --> 00:38:20,359 road or you know standing next to a 929 00:38:25,769 --> 00:38:23,059 cemetery or something like that it 930 00:38:29,529 --> 00:38:25,779 reminds me you know our good friend 931 00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:29,539 Timothy green Beckley he he has a theory 932 00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:32,480 that a lot of these men in black cases 933 00:38:38,470 --> 00:38:35,710 may actually be the form of almost like 934 00:38:42,430 --> 00:38:38,480 what do you refer to like like astro 935 00:38:45,279 --> 00:38:42,440 zombies almost that something will take 936 00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:45,289 over a person just anybody you know you 937 00:38:51,609 --> 00:38:48,670 me or anybody and they will then be 938 00:38:54,370 --> 00:38:51,619 they'll go out and they will do 939 00:38:57,579 --> 00:38:54,380 something you know like a like take on 940 00:38:59,920 --> 00:38:57,589 the guise of a man in black do their 941 00:39:04,920 --> 00:38:59,930 dirty work go back and with no 942 00:39:07,509 --> 00:39:04,930 recollection of what they did and it 943 00:39:10,180 --> 00:39:07,519 that may explain I mean I know that you 944 00:39:11,739 --> 00:39:10,190 have talked to people before who who 945 00:39:13,660 --> 00:39:11,749 claimed that they were men in black and 946 00:39:16,089 --> 00:39:13,670 that they they said that they were you 947 00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:16,099 know like boring that way or yes help to 948 00:39:19,089 --> 00:39:17,599 do what they were doing they are born 949 00:39:20,890 --> 00:39:19,099 that way and they do this without even 950 00:39:22,359 --> 00:39:20,900 thinking about the morality of it all 951 00:39:25,150 --> 00:39:22,369 they do it because they feel that it's 952 00:39:25,839 --> 00:39:25,160 necessary to continue the progression of 953 00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:25,849 mankind 954 00:39:29,739 --> 00:39:27,440 they are like custodians they they are 955 00:39:31,359 --> 00:39:29,749 here to do do work they're here to do 956 00:39:33,609 --> 00:39:31,369 you know anything from if they're told 957 00:39:35,470 --> 00:39:33,619 that they have to bomb a shopping center 958 00:39:38,349 --> 00:39:35,480 the obama shopping center if they're 959 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:38,359 told they have to save a little girl 960 00:39:42,069 --> 00:39:40,130 because this little girl's gonna be some 961 00:39:43,870 --> 00:39:42,079 famous person later on they have to go 962 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:43,880 and do this kind of reminds me of the 963 00:39:47,499 --> 00:39:45,650 observers and the television show fringe 964 00:39:49,180 --> 00:39:47,509 where they were there to keep things 965 00:39:50,559 --> 00:39:49,190 moving along and to keep the progression 966 00:39:52,539 --> 00:39:50,569 when kind of cleaning up I don't know if 967 00:39:54,279 --> 00:39:52,549 you ever saw The Adjustment Bureau yes 968 00:39:55,749 --> 00:39:54,289 they are thinking of that they were 969 00:39:57,370 --> 00:39:55,759 there like those characters where they 970 00:39:59,620 --> 00:39:57,380 were saying that we step back we let you 971 00:40:00,759 --> 00:39:59,630 guys do things on your own and when we 972 00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:00,769 step back in the turn of the century 973 00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:04,160 into the 20th century we had World War 1 974 00:40:07,269 --> 00:40:05,569 World War two and we almost annihilated 975 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:07,279 ourselves with a bomb then they step 976 00:40:10,910 --> 00:40:09,090 back in and took over again 977 00:40:12,350 --> 00:40:10,920 and the one guy says well the world's 978 00:40:14,210 --> 00:40:12,360 pretty screwed up now what are you doing 979 00:40:16,490 --> 00:40:14,220 says hey it's still here isn't it we're 980 00:40:18,350 --> 00:40:16,500 still keeping it together as much as we 981 00:40:20,780 --> 00:40:18,360 hate to tell you this it's on the brink 982 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:20,790 of disaster but these men in black are 983 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:22,170 these custodians whatever they may be 984 00:40:26,410 --> 00:40:24,330 are holding things together and they 985 00:40:29,420 --> 00:40:26,420 appear in the in the weirdest of places 986 00:40:31,070 --> 00:40:29,430 very much so you know that's why I'm 987 00:40:33,620 --> 00:40:31,080 thinking you know the the the phone call 988 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:33,630 that we got from the the sheriff who saw 989 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:35,610 the the figure that was dressed like 990 00:40:40,580 --> 00:40:38,610 like a monk yeah you know if you if you 991 00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:40,590 really look into that you know you had a 992 00:40:45,590 --> 00:40:42,510 cowl over his face and a long flowing 993 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:45,600 type of robe you know I investigated a 994 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:47,370 case here in Indiana where somebody was 995 00:40:52,490 --> 00:40:49,650 again it was driving down a rural road 996 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:52,500 and they had to stop because there was a 997 00:40:57,890 --> 00:40:56,370 procession of beings or what our 998 00:40:59,840 --> 00:40:57,900 entities whatever you want to call all 999 00:41:02,210 --> 00:40:59,850 dressed the same dressed just like what 1000 00:41:04,250 --> 00:41:02,220 the sheriff described crossing the road 1001 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:04,260 and I mean he you know he honked the 1002 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:05,850 horns flashlight you know he thought 1003 00:41:10,220 --> 00:41:08,130 maybe it was some kind of you know who 1004 00:41:12,140 --> 00:41:10,230 knows he fell friend hey you thought 1005 00:41:13,940 --> 00:41:12,150 they were real yeah yeah you know but 1006 00:41:15,950 --> 00:41:13,950 they would they just kept slow and you 1007 00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:15,960 know he said there was like a hundred of 1008 00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:17,250 them it took him you know like 10 1009 00:41:21,350 --> 00:41:19,440 minutes to cross the road and he set 1010 00:41:25,130 --> 00:41:21,360 there and patiently waited for them to 1011 00:41:27,170 --> 00:41:25,140 get across and then after they did he 1012 00:41:28,730 --> 00:41:27,180 you know what forward a little bit and 1013 00:41:30,980 --> 00:41:28,740 looked into the field that they had 1014 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:30,990 walked into there was nobody there you 1015 00:41:34,190 --> 00:41:32,610 know he said there was there had been at 1016 00:41:35,660 --> 00:41:34,200 least a hundred people but they just had 1017 00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:35,670 just vanished and just disappeared I was 1018 00:41:39,710 --> 00:41:37,440 like I was saying earlier I mean there's 1019 00:41:43,060 --> 00:41:39,720 this what they call this multiverse or 1020 00:41:45,830 --> 00:41:43,070 this usually so yeah the multiverse 1021 00:41:49,820 --> 00:41:45,840 sometimes kicks out these strange 1022 00:41:51,380 --> 00:41:49,830 entities of these strange type of beings 1023 00:41:54,650 --> 00:41:51,390 and it's like what was said earlier 1024 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:54,660 bullard had said that the men in black 1025 00:41:59,780 --> 00:41:57,690 are basically the human beings that fill 1026 00:42:01,280 --> 00:41:59,790 the shoes of angels and demons and they 1027 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:01,290 do the work of angels and demons and 1028 00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:02,850 then like you say they wake up one day 1029 00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:04,110 and they realize that they have to put 1030 00:42:07,070 --> 00:42:05,910 on the clothes do the thing and go do 1031 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:07,080 what they do and they're under the spell 1032 00:42:11,090 --> 00:42:09,330 of something that tells them they need 1033 00:42:12,980 --> 00:42:11,100 to do this and then you know it all goes 1034 00:42:15,980 --> 00:42:12,990 back to the what do you call this 1035 00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:15,990 zombified or or they or the sleeper or 1036 00:42:20,150 --> 00:42:18,240 they like you know they programmed you 1037 00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:20,160 or you've been programmed into you here 1038 00:42:23,849 --> 00:42:21,730 like a trigger song 1039 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:23,859 there was a there was a show I think it 1040 00:42:28,290 --> 00:42:26,410 was the blacklist where there was a girl 1041 00:42:29,220 --> 00:42:28,300 in the show and she'd hear that Inkspot 1042 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:29,230 song called 1043 00:42:35,490 --> 00:42:32,290 my echo my shadow and me when she heard 1044 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:35,500 that song my echo my shadow and me when 1045 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:37,330 she heard that song it triggered her to 1046 00:42:40,820 --> 00:42:38,410 become somebody else 1047 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:40,830 and she became like this this massive 1048 00:42:47,010 --> 00:42:44,650 killer this young girl who was like you 1049 00:42:49,950 --> 00:42:47,020 know seemed innocent and sweet and very 1050 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:49,960 shy here's that Inkspot song and she 1051 00:42:54,599 --> 00:42:51,970 merely turns into this very capable 1052 00:42:57,060 --> 00:42:54,609 killer with guns and she goes out and 1053 00:42:58,830 --> 00:42:57,070 she does all kinds of criminal activity 1054 00:43:00,240 --> 00:42:58,840 comes back she is something else that 1055 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:00,250 triggers her back into being who she is 1056 00:43:03,359 --> 00:43:02,050 and no one's the wiser kind of like I'd 1057 00:43:05,580 --> 00:43:03,369 Chuck Barris thing where he said he was 1058 00:43:07,260 --> 00:43:05,590 a CIA killer or whatever I mean that's 1059 00:43:09,150 --> 00:43:07,270 another way that we can explain this but 1060 00:43:10,650 --> 00:43:09,160 then there is that supernatural element 1061 00:43:14,540 --> 00:43:10,660 that everybody's seeing the black hat 1062 00:43:16,710 --> 00:43:14,550 man the the dark figure bogeyman the 1063 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:16,720 demonic dark figure in the bedroom 1064 00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:19,090 looking down at you it's system creepy 1065 00:43:22,530 --> 00:43:20,710 things that go bump in the night again 1066 00:43:23,849 --> 00:43:22,540 Tim Schwartz my guest tonight on Ground 1067 00:43:26,070 --> 00:43:23,859 Zero so glad to have on the program 1068 00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:26,080 tonight taking your phone calls men in 1069 00:43:30,810 --> 00:43:28,720 black have been seen in Iowa standing on 1070 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:30,820 a rural Highway people are saying 1071 00:43:34,859 --> 00:43:32,770 they're gonna jump out and kill it get 1072 00:43:37,770 --> 00:43:34,869 killed or or something else is afoot I 1073 00:43:39,540 --> 00:43:37,780 mean no car nothing that gives them a 1074 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:39,550 reason to hide they're just there 1075 00:43:43,290 --> 00:43:41,890 whatever they may be supernatural or 1076 00:43:45,720 --> 00:43:43,300 otherwise it's still under investigation 1077 00:43:47,250 --> 00:43:45,730 but many people in that area are 1078 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:47,260 frightened they're worried that either 1079 00:43:51,870 --> 00:43:49,450 someone's gonna get killed or that it 1080 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:51,880 may be something under you know 1081 00:43:57,300 --> 00:43:54,130 unearthly or beyond this world trouble 1082 00:43:59,700 --> 00:43:57,310 86 73 3700 move back with more Ground 1083 00:44:02,190 --> 00:43:59,710 Zero right here don't go away 1084 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:02,200 in Muscatine County they're seeing many 1085 00:44:05,099 --> 00:44:03,490 black on the side of the road they're 1086 00:44:06,630 --> 00:44:05,109 wondering who they are they're wondered 1087 00:44:08,250 --> 00:44:06,640 they're pranksters but it's in the 1088 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:08,260 middle of nowhere in a rural area and it 1089 00:44:11,670 --> 00:44:10,210 makes you wonder where they disappeared 1090 00:44:12,780 --> 00:44:11,680 to when the lights flash on them we've 1091 00:44:14,130 --> 00:44:12,790 already had an account from a sheriff 1092 00:44:15,450 --> 00:44:14,140 saying that he saw something similar in 1093 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:15,460 Texas when he went to investigate 1094 00:44:19,140 --> 00:44:17,170 whatever it was that was in the road 1095 00:44:21,060 --> 00:44:19,150 with a cloak that disappeared 1096 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:21,070 so I have to take the leap of logic and 1097 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:22,330 think it may be supernatural what do you 1098 00:44:26,940 --> 00:44:25,810 say Tim well you know it's it's 1099 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:26,950 interesting that you'd bring that up 1100 00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:28,930 Clyde because the 1101 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:32,800 the supernatural I think probably fits 1102 00:44:38,430 --> 00:44:35,890 it very closely last year in that very 1103 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:38,440 same County now we talked in an earlier 1104 00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:42,370 segment about satanic rituals and the 1105 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:45,520 like in a very same County the Baxter 1106 00:44:53,610 --> 00:44:51,010 family lost 40 goats from they say over 1107 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:53,620 a two-day period to night period from 1108 00:44:58,170 --> 00:44:56,050 what they said was a dog because they 1109 00:45:01,110 --> 00:44:58,180 could hear it barking these these were 1110 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:01,120 regular-sized goats and this dog managed 1111 00:45:08,510 --> 00:45:05,050 to kill all but four of them in two 1112 00:45:14,070 --> 00:45:08,520 nights each one of these goats were 1113 00:45:16,260 --> 00:45:14,080 ripped apart and sacrificed basically so 1114 00:45:18,780 --> 00:45:16,270 now we're happy now we're seeing these 1115 00:45:21,210 --> 00:45:18,790 these dark figures in the very same 1116 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:21,220 County and the strange thing is is that 1117 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:23,290 the farmers shot at this dog he couldn't 1118 00:45:29,850 --> 00:45:26,290 see it clearly but he was never able to 1119 00:45:31,380 --> 00:45:29,860 hit it and every you know I don't know 1120 00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:31,390 you know if you know but you know it's 1121 00:45:36,450 --> 00:45:33,910 very hard for a dog to kill a goat maybe 1122 00:45:39,180 --> 00:45:36,460 you know he may be able to kill one but 1123 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:39,190 almost 40 of them in a two-night period 1124 00:45:42,810 --> 00:45:41,050 there's something strange going on in 1125 00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:42,820 that incident and now we're seeing these 1126 00:45:46,860 --> 00:45:44,710 dark figures right we'll also sounds 1127 00:45:48,270 --> 00:45:46,870 like a chupacabra story - I mean all 1128 00:45:50,310 --> 00:45:48,280 right when the chupacabra story was 1129 00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:50,320 first reported I I talked to the 1130 00:45:54,150 --> 00:45:51,760 Department of Agriculture in Puerto Rico 1131 00:45:57,180 --> 00:45:54,160 and it was funny because either the 1132 00:45:59,040 --> 00:45:57,190 chupacabra was they they said that what 1133 00:46:00,690 --> 00:45:59,050 it was is they believed it was a dog it 1134 00:46:02,820 --> 00:46:00,700 was a special time in dog like a mutated 1135 00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:02,830 dog from a experiment that went awry 1136 00:46:07,410 --> 00:46:05,710 some chimera that went awry or something 1137 00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:07,420 but they had said from the beginning 1138 00:46:11,370 --> 00:46:09,520 that it was some sort of a dog or canine 1139 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:11,380 and so whenever I see these reports of 1140 00:46:16,350 --> 00:46:13,890 these you know frail-looking animals 1141 00:46:17,850 --> 00:46:16,360 with these big teeth you know the double 1142 00:46:19,290 --> 00:46:17,860 rack teeth everything they say some Mad 1143 00:46:21,450 --> 00:46:19,300 Dog I'm not going well that's what the 1144 00:46:23,190 --> 00:46:21,460 chupacabra allegedly was with some Mad 1145 00:46:25,170 --> 00:46:23,200 Dog that an insatiable appetite for 1146 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:25,180 blood mostly from goats and chickens so 1147 00:46:35,730 --> 00:46:33,360 the chupacabra son sons nearly 20 years 1148 00:46:37,770 --> 00:46:35,740 old hmm it's old blow the dust off of 1149 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:37,780 that one from 1995 and Graham's ear was 1150 00:46:41,550 --> 00:46:40,090 in its infancy it did actually have a 1151 00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:41,560 debut on the art Belle show back in the 1152 00:46:45,780 --> 00:46:43,510 day Tim Schwartz with us on grounds are 1153 00:46:47,820 --> 00:46:45,790 talking about the strange creatures or 1154 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:47,830 even the strange apparitions of the men 1155 00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:50,410 in black in rural areas especially Iowa 1156 00:46:55,410 --> 00:46:53,680 right now apparently in southeast Iowa 1157 00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:55,420 people are claiming they're seeing the 1158 00:46:59,760 --> 00:46:57,280 men in black standing on the street in 1159 00:47:02,130 --> 00:46:59,770 the middle of nowhere and people 1160 00:47:03,690 --> 00:47:02,140 motorists have almost run them over some 1161 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:03,700 people say it's a joke other people are 1162 00:47:05,970 --> 00:47:05,050 saying no it's not it's something we 1163 00:47:09,570 --> 00:47:05,980 really need to take into consideration 1164 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:09,580 it's really scary and once again this is 1165 00:47:13,020 --> 00:47:11,170 the visit of the tall man the grinning 1166 00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:13,030 man the the man with the black hat 1167 00:47:17,730 --> 00:47:15,730 Slenderman all of these strange dark 1168 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:17,740 figures in our in our minds that are 1169 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:18,850 approaching or although otherwise 1170 00:47:24,030 --> 00:47:22,210 manifesting so that's it's it's some 1171 00:47:26,460 --> 00:47:24,040 creepy stuff and Tim Schwartz is here to 1172 00:47:27,810 --> 00:47:26,470 talk about it with us I find it 1173 00:47:30,330 --> 00:47:27,820 interesting too that you know in rural 1174 00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:30,340 areas and you brought up the the 1175 00:47:34,110 --> 00:47:32,800 chupacabra I know that there have been 1176 00:47:35,820 --> 00:47:34,120 many news reports where people have 1177 00:47:37,410 --> 00:47:35,830 claimed to have shot one or at least had 1178 00:47:39,270 --> 00:47:37,420 one and they always say oh that's not a 1179 00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:39,280 chupacabra and I'm thinking well you 1180 00:47:42,780 --> 00:47:41,110 know what what is it super Cobras that 1181 00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:42,790 it'd be really classified one do they 1182 00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:45,040 really know what one is or I mean what 1183 00:47:49,860 --> 00:47:47,520 is it have to fit some supernatural 1184 00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:49,870 criteria in order for it to be real what 1185 00:47:55,020 --> 00:47:52,510 what do you think Tim well I don't you 1186 00:47:57,870 --> 00:47:55,030 know what we've got the name chupacabra 1187 00:48:00,810 --> 00:47:57,880 or you know goat sucker I mean we break 1188 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:00,820 up the the image of the like you 1189 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:02,530 described I mean it looked almost like a 1190 00:48:08,850 --> 00:48:05,890 reptilian gray type of creature you know 1191 00:48:11,730 --> 00:48:08,860 it had like big eyes but about the same 1192 00:48:14,970 --> 00:48:11,740 size but instead of a lot of times it 1193 00:48:17,370 --> 00:48:14,980 had scales and like used to somebody who 1194 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:17,380 said they had a wings on their back and 1195 00:48:23,550 --> 00:48:20,410 they could fly for short distances right 1196 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:23,560 but actually you know I think we're kind 1197 00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:27,970 of attaching a an image to that you know 1198 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:29,920 that dark shadow in the night so to 1199 00:48:36,259 --> 00:48:34,330 speak we we've had stories throughout 1200 00:48:38,509 --> 00:48:36,269 history of things killing 1201 00:48:40,699 --> 00:48:38,519 animals and and even people but 1202 00:48:42,679 --> 00:48:40,709 especially livestock you get up in the 1203 00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:42,689 morning there's you know all of your 1204 00:48:48,529 --> 00:48:46,529 livestock mysteriously killed and and 1205 00:48:50,689 --> 00:48:48,539 then pretty soon in the the same areas 1206 00:48:53,629 --> 00:48:50,699 start to have reports of you know 1207 00:48:56,809 --> 00:48:53,639 ghostly figures you know the the men in 1208 00:48:59,239 --> 00:48:56,819 black or the the dark cow figures being 1209 00:49:01,279 --> 00:48:59,249 seen along the country lanes or in the 1210 00:49:05,319 --> 00:49:01,289 cemeteries and it almost makes me think 1211 00:49:07,789 --> 00:49:05,329 of you know the old necromancing 1212 00:49:11,269 --> 00:49:07,799 theories where you'd have a blood 1213 00:49:14,749 --> 00:49:11,279 sacrifice in order to call up the 1214 00:49:17,419 --> 00:49:14,759 spirits or the the demons or what have 1215 00:49:19,519 --> 00:49:17,429 you and so I mean you know did have we 1216 00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:19,529 seen a very similar situation there in 1217 00:49:26,029 --> 00:49:22,169 Iowa where you know you had 40 goats 1218 00:49:29,509 --> 00:49:26,039 killed in a matter of days reportedly by 1219 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:29,519 an unknown dog or you know a black shuck 1220 00:49:34,909 --> 00:49:32,249 as they're called in Great Britain and 1221 00:49:38,089 --> 00:49:34,919 then we start seeing these almost 1222 00:49:40,609 --> 00:49:38,099 supernatural types of entities prowling 1223 00:49:43,039 --> 00:49:40,619 the roads at night scaring people now 1224 00:49:44,509 --> 00:49:43,049 how long is it going to be before some 1225 00:49:46,099 --> 00:49:44,519 of these residents will start seeing 1226 00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:46,109 these things you know in their house 1227 00:49:50,059 --> 00:49:48,569 right are like our last caller you know 1228 00:49:52,789 --> 00:49:50,069 the wake up and they'll be you know 1229 00:49:55,309 --> 00:49:52,799 these things coming out of the closet or 1230 00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:55,319 you know standing alongside their beds 1231 00:49:59,449 --> 00:49:57,359 or even you know regular doorbells in 1232 00:50:01,729 --> 00:49:59,459 the middle of the night yeah you'll 1233 00:50:03,199 --> 00:50:01,739 probably start seeing that so we did 1234 00:50:05,929 --> 00:50:03,209 have a full moon in the Solstice last 1235 00:50:08,689 --> 00:50:05,939 night and that's right many astrologists 1236 00:50:10,729 --> 00:50:08,699 or astrologers had said by the way you 1237 00:50:12,379 --> 00:50:10,739 know this means that it's the night of 1238 00:50:13,909 --> 00:50:12,389 rituals and night of all kinds of 1239 00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:13,919 craziness and maybe there were rituals 1240 00:50:17,419 --> 00:50:15,839 going on last night and and entities 1241 00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:17,429 were conjured or otherwise brought 1242 00:50:21,319 --> 00:50:19,129 forward we were just talking about that 1243 00:50:22,359 --> 00:50:21,329 there's a new movie called the conjuring 1244 00:50:24,349 --> 00:50:22,369 that came out and they actually 1245 00:50:26,869 --> 00:50:24,359 associated a number of attacks some 1246 00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:26,879 well-known a ghost and poltergeist cases 1247 00:50:33,679 --> 00:50:29,609 with this this demon that had nothing to 1248 00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:33,689 do with anything called fields vaak and 1249 00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:36,569 apparently VALIC had nothing to do with 1250 00:50:39,769 --> 00:50:38,129 these cases but they brought this demon 1251 00:50:42,109 --> 00:50:39,779 in it happens to be the demon which 1252 00:50:44,869 --> 00:50:42,119 shows up during a celestial events and 1253 00:50:45,499 --> 00:50:44,879 is the guardian of the the Viper pit to 1254 00:50:48,109 --> 00:50:45,509 the the 1255 00:50:50,269 --> 00:50:48,119 Viper's in the abyss I'm like boy they 1256 00:50:51,799 --> 00:50:50,279 sure tighten that one pretty well I 1257 00:50:53,989 --> 00:50:51,809 don't know about that it's gonna Brian 1258 00:50:57,169 --> 00:50:53,999 in Illinois Ryan hi you're run with Tim 1259 00:51:01,129 --> 00:50:57,179 Schwartz go ahead hi guys great show 1260 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:01,139 tonight man my mine is not typical this 1261 00:51:07,729 --> 00:51:05,249 was back in 1956 I was five years old 1262 00:51:10,969 --> 00:51:07,739 but in kindergarten and it was in a 1263 00:51:12,649 --> 00:51:10,979 populous area of Chicago I woke up at 1264 00:51:15,289 --> 00:51:12,659 around 2 o'clock walked out into the 1265 00:51:16,429 --> 00:51:15,299 living room and there was the only light 1266 00:51:17,839 --> 00:51:16,439 in the room was coming from a 1267 00:51:19,969 --> 00:51:17,849 streetlight from outside through your 1268 00:51:22,879 --> 00:51:19,979 porch window and there was somebody 1269 00:51:27,649 --> 00:51:22,889 sitting in a chair a you know like 1270 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:27,659 Alpine style hat but he was so black and 1271 00:51:31,189 --> 00:51:29,130 it was in an area that would have been 1272 00:51:33,319 --> 00:51:31,199 killing some light but it is like he was 1273 00:51:38,359 --> 00:51:33,329 sucking in all the light was that kind 1274 00:51:40,459 --> 00:51:38,369 of dark black black and I got I got sort 1275 00:51:43,699 --> 00:51:40,469 of scared and I went back to my room I 1276 00:51:45,159 --> 00:51:43,709 came back out it was gone but it's the 1277 00:51:48,259 --> 00:51:45,169 same thing I had this ominous feeling 1278 00:51:50,569 --> 00:51:48,269 yeah I don't know it's sort of weird 1279 00:51:52,459 --> 00:51:50,579 well they're all weird and you know I 1280 00:51:54,139 --> 00:51:52,469 never told anybody either well I'm glad 1281 00:51:55,879 --> 00:51:54,149 you're telling us I mean they do show up 1282 00:51:57,109 --> 00:51:55,889 from time to time I like I said I mean I 1283 00:51:58,669 --> 00:51:57,119 had the dream of the grinning man who 1284 00:52:00,589 --> 00:51:58,679 broke my neck and it just scared me I 1285 00:52:02,799 --> 00:52:00,599 have had shadow figures in my room 1286 00:52:03,919 --> 00:52:02,809 before who have spoken to me 1287 00:52:05,359 --> 00:52:03,929 telepathically 1288 00:52:07,639 --> 00:52:05,369 you know that's maybe once or twice I 1289 00:52:09,679 --> 00:52:07,649 mean it's not something obituaries had 1290 00:52:12,049 --> 00:52:09,689 that moment and it makes you wonder if 1291 00:52:13,309 --> 00:52:12,059 they appear from dream time or if they 1292 00:52:14,959 --> 00:52:13,319 find themselves like I say in a 1293 00:52:18,259 --> 00:52:14,969 multi-dimensional multiverse type way 1294 00:52:20,509 --> 00:52:18,269 where we see them but they're seen in 1295 00:52:23,059 --> 00:52:20,519 several different versions of what we 1296 00:52:25,249 --> 00:52:23,069 call our reality and so it's kind of 1297 00:52:27,289 --> 00:52:25,259 like they break through our protective 1298 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:27,299 matrix that we live in and they show 1299 00:52:30,409 --> 00:52:29,130 themselves for reasons unknown it just 1300 00:52:32,689 --> 00:52:30,419 doesn't make any sense but it's still 1301 00:52:34,219 --> 00:52:32,699 something that is supernatural bizarre 1302 00:52:37,729 --> 00:52:34,229 let's go to Ryan in Oregon you're on 1303 00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:37,739 with Jim Schwartz go ahead yeah hi what 1304 00:52:41,419 --> 00:52:39,209 I heard you guys are talking about this 1305 00:52:44,209 --> 00:52:41,429 I was just floored 1306 00:52:47,029 --> 00:52:44,219 I had a something happen to me when I 1307 00:52:51,979 --> 00:52:47,039 was over the road driving truck in very 1308 00:52:54,259 --> 00:52:51,989 rural Arkansas I was a trainer and about 1309 00:52:55,819 --> 00:52:54,269 two o'clock in the morning my student he 1310 00:52:57,259 --> 00:52:55,829 woke up and he came through the curtain 1311 00:52:58,890 --> 00:52:57,269 and he set the other seat and I asked 1312 00:53:02,160 --> 00:52:58,900 what are you doing up 1313 00:53:05,430 --> 00:53:02,170 I just all of a sudden I couldn't sleep 1314 00:53:07,769 --> 00:53:05,440 and right about then I look up and it's 1315 00:53:11,490 --> 00:53:07,779 very rural there was no cars parked 1316 00:53:13,740 --> 00:53:11,500 along the road no houses just forest 1317 00:53:16,740 --> 00:53:13,750 there's somebody standing on the white 1318 00:53:17,849 --> 00:53:16,750 line on the freeway on the side of the 1319 00:53:20,789 --> 00:53:17,859 road and I hit them 1320 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:20,799 click the cruise control off and slowed 1321 00:53:26,700 --> 00:53:23,410 down and started to move over in the 1322 00:53:28,589 --> 00:53:26,710 left lane and there was a guy in a black 1323 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:28,599 suit and he was just standing there 1324 00:53:40,019 --> 00:53:36,900 really strange and I've tried over the 1325 00:53:44,579 --> 00:53:40,029 years to rationalize what that was and I 1326 00:53:47,549 --> 00:53:44,589 i I haven't been able to there was just 1327 00:53:49,230 --> 00:53:47,559 nothing around out there nothing yeah 1328 00:53:50,849 --> 00:53:49,240 that's the strangest part is when you're 1329 00:53:52,410 --> 00:53:50,859 out in the middle of nowhere and there's 1330 00:53:57,180 --> 00:53:52,420 no other explanation except something 1331 00:53:59,700 --> 00:53:57,190 supernatural something but the really 1332 00:54:01,500 --> 00:53:59,710 strange part was I was kind of freaked 1333 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:01,510 out and kind of scared about it but my 1334 00:54:06,180 --> 00:54:03,130 student he'd be like well maybe we 1335 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:06,190 should stop and see if he's okay I said 1336 00:54:10,589 --> 00:54:08,770 I'm not stopping and he was he was 1337 00:54:12,660 --> 00:54:10,599 really insistent that we stop and I 1338 00:54:15,210 --> 00:54:12,670 finally said well we get about two miles 1339 00:54:16,829 --> 00:54:15,220 down the road all pull over all wait 1340 00:54:20,670 --> 00:54:16,839 about an hour get out back I'm leaving 1341 00:54:24,029 --> 00:54:20,680 and he kind of hushed up then but he had 1342 00:54:27,390 --> 00:54:24,039 this like crazy sense that he needed to 1343 00:54:28,859 --> 00:54:27,400 go to this person interest and I had 1344 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:28,869 just the opposite that I needed to get 1345 00:54:34,859 --> 00:54:31,450 the hell out of there no I would have 1346 00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:34,869 done that but it was strange and I 1347 00:54:40,500 --> 00:54:36,880 haven't told too many people but it was 1348 00:54:42,690 --> 00:54:40,510 yeah roll odd Orion was this go is this 1349 00:54:43,819 --> 00:54:42,700 guy looking at you as you approached him 1350 00:54:46,019 --> 00:54:43,829 in the trunk 1351 00:54:48,900 --> 00:54:46,029 he was looking straight into the 1352 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:48,910 straight off into the freeway okay and 1353 00:54:54,089 --> 00:54:51,970 he didn't he didn't really move and the 1354 00:54:56,700 --> 00:54:54,099 only way I could describe really quickly 1355 00:54:58,470 --> 00:54:56,710 how he looked it was kind of like Agent 1356 00:55:03,150 --> 00:54:58,480 Smith on the matrix you know in a suit 1357 00:55:05,730 --> 00:55:03,160 yeah like that and I thought maybe he 1358 00:55:09,700 --> 00:55:05,740 drunk in a wedding party he's lost but 1359 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:12,560 no no reason for anybody to be standing 1360 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:14,370 out there especially in a suit right 1361 00:55:17,420 --> 00:55:15,330 exactly 1362 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:17,430 hey that's how it is it's just they're 1363 00:55:20,060 --> 00:55:18,450 just out of place that's why they're 1364 00:55:22,220 --> 00:55:20,070 noticed is they stick out like a sore 1365 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:22,230 thumb Tim and and that's why you know 1366 00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:23,610 when I first saw this been in black 1367 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:24,510 story they'd say oh it could be 1368 00:55:26,690 --> 00:55:25,770 pranksters but the police probably have 1369 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:26,700 even bothered to go out there and 1370 00:55:31,010 --> 00:55:28,650 investigate because they just think that 1371 00:55:32,780 --> 00:55:31,020 people are seeing things and and but you 1372 00:55:34,340 --> 00:55:32,790 go to their Facebook page of the 1373 00:55:35,720 --> 00:55:34,350 sheriff's office and people are really 1374 00:55:36,980 --> 00:55:35,730 frightened about these these men in 1375 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:36,990 trench coats they're really frightened 1376 00:55:41,420 --> 00:55:40,170 by them so yeah i like i like how the 1377 00:55:43,610 --> 00:55:41,430 sheriff's department put up the picture 1378 00:55:45,170 --> 00:55:43,620 of the sand man from The Nightmare 1379 00:55:46,550 --> 00:55:45,180 Before Christmas it's almost like 1380 00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:46,560 they're treating a little bit like a 1381 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:48,720 joke yeah and then it's not people are 1382 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:50,370 really frightened by it Ryan thank you 1383 00:55:54,650 --> 00:55:52,130 for the call let's see let's go down to 1384 00:55:59,300 --> 00:55:54,660 Clay in Ohio hi clay you're on ground 1385 00:56:00,350 --> 00:55:59,310 zero go ahead hello Tim good evening 1386 00:56:05,900 --> 00:56:00,360 gentlemen 1387 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:05,910 I 43 years old and when I was a child 1388 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:07,530 all the way up till I was in my early 1389 00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:10,530 teens I would have this such fear I 1390 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:13,380 could not move I could open my eyes and 1391 00:56:18,860 --> 00:56:16,050 there will be a man when I did overalls 1392 00:56:22,190 --> 00:56:18,870 and I could work sure like when a plan 1393 00:56:25,010 --> 00:56:22,200 type work shirts white grace hair his 1394 00:56:28,310 --> 00:56:25,020 eyes were like black sunken and 1395 00:56:30,890 --> 00:56:28,320 underneath eyes and he had perfect teeth 1396 00:56:33,170 --> 00:56:30,900 when he smiled and when I was able to 1397 00:56:35,450 --> 00:56:33,180 focus on him he was flowed up through 1398 00:56:38,450 --> 00:56:35,460 the ceiling and I would have this for 1399 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:38,460 many years and there's sometimes there 1400 00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:41,370 would be these like context problem was 1401 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:44,400 black fish floating around the room when 1402 00:56:51,710 --> 00:56:49,890 he black fish I've never heard that by 1403 00:56:54,050 --> 00:56:51,720 them so they were black things swimming 1404 00:56:56,210 --> 00:56:54,060 around some people see black fish or 1405 00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:56,220 entities or things floating around and 1406 00:57:01,520 --> 00:56:58,050 what you know it sounds an awful lot 1407 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:01,530 like a Robert Monroe you know who was 1408 00:57:07,610 --> 00:57:04,050 the wrote several books on astral 1409 00:57:10,310 --> 00:57:07,620 projection and he would say that in the 1410 00:57:13,220 --> 00:57:10,320 process of when he would first noir come 1411 00:57:15,890 --> 00:57:13,230 out of his body that that he would be 1412 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:15,900 harassed sometimes by and he described 1413 00:57:18,750 --> 00:57:17,970 him as kind of like almost like a fish 1414 00:57:22,050 --> 00:57:18,760 type of 1415 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:22,060 entities that would attach themselves to 1416 00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:24,490 his spiritual body you know almost like 1417 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:27,280 the that's what I call like not more a 1418 00:57:32,010 --> 00:57:29,890 heels but you know the those fish that 1419 00:57:34,770 --> 00:57:32,020 attach themselves you know just sharks 1420 00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:34,780 and whales and things like that and he 1421 00:57:38,069 --> 00:57:36,400 said he'd have a heck of a time trying 1422 00:57:40,109 --> 00:57:38,079 to get them off of him 1423 00:57:42,930 --> 00:57:40,119 he called it like parasites like 1424 00:57:44,700 --> 00:57:42,940 spiritual parasites spirit you're 1425 00:57:47,970 --> 00:57:44,710 kidding me really spiritual parasites 1426 00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:47,980 spiritual parasites because I'm doing an 1427 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:51,130 investigation right now in not really 1428 00:57:55,890 --> 00:57:53,050 spiritual parasites but parasites or 1429 00:57:58,560 --> 00:57:55,900 bugs but a detecting now that basically 1430 00:58:02,190 --> 00:57:58,570 controlled the mind control the mind of 1431 00:58:03,870 --> 00:58:02,200 animals I - I'm getting that no I'm 1432 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:03,880 getting these like what we call 1433 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:06,730 overlapping things they're coincidences 1434 00:58:10,770 --> 00:58:08,050 and synchronicities about what I'm 1435 00:58:14,010 --> 00:58:10,780 talking about further in the show later 1436 00:58:16,319 --> 00:58:14,020 on in the week and boy that was right on 1437 00:58:17,550 --> 00:58:16,329 the money there Tim clay thank you so 1438 00:58:20,130 --> 00:58:17,560 much for your call that was amazing 1439 00:58:21,210 --> 00:58:20,140 story and now we have more to come we'd 1440 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:21,220 like to hear from you tonight triple 1441 00:58:26,910 --> 00:58:24,010 eight six seven three 3700 that's triple 1442 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:26,920 18 603 3,700 the men in black the 1443 00:58:31,859 --> 00:58:29,410 gridding man the man with the hat the 1444 00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:31,869 black hat Slender Man all of these 1445 00:58:37,020 --> 00:58:34,480 creatures in all of these apparitions 1446 00:58:38,900 --> 00:58:37,030 are being seen by people right now in 1447 00:58:41,609 --> 00:58:38,910 Iowa though the police are investigating 1448 00:58:43,710 --> 00:58:41,619 appearances of these men in black trench 1449 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:43,720 the trench coats no one knows what 1450 00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:45,130 they're doing there they're in the 1451 00:58:47,790 --> 00:58:46,569 middle of nowhere and people are 1452 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:47,800 frightened they're afraid they're gonna 1453 00:58:52,140 --> 00:58:49,930 jump in front of cars get killed but 1454 00:58:53,790 --> 00:58:52,150 maybe they won't because they're just 1455 00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:53,800 not really there they're kind of 1456 00:58:58,109 --> 00:58:55,810 interdimensional or maybe they're just 1457 00:58:59,520 --> 00:58:58,119 to fight in the rural area frightened 1458 00:59:02,520 --> 00:58:59,530 the area they're frightened the people 1459 00:59:03,089 --> 00:59:02,530 in that rural area chevrolet 673 3700 1460 00:59:04,319 --> 00:59:03,099 we'll be back 1461 00:59:09,420 --> 00:59:04,329 you're on with Tim Schwartz on ground 1462 00:59:14,609 --> 00:59:09,430 zero go ahead I just wanted to talk 1463 00:59:17,819 --> 00:59:14,619 about an experience I had in 1984 okay 1464 00:59:20,010 --> 00:59:17,829 there's Sun at night house then I was 1465 00:59:21,690 --> 00:59:20,020 well I went through the door because 1466 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:21,700 they heard a knock and I looked outside 1467 00:59:28,500 --> 00:59:26,010 I know I saw like four people that were 1468 00:59:31,020 --> 00:59:28,510 almost kind of grey black 1469 00:59:35,610 --> 00:59:31,030 let's do women and two men 1470 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:35,620 and all of them jet black sunglasses 1471 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:37,890 then I was in the daytime and they were 1472 00:59:43,230 --> 00:59:40,330 well they were all just into kind of a 1473 00:59:45,690 --> 00:59:43,240 black you're kind of gray but they seem 1474 00:59:48,090 --> 00:59:45,700 to be kind of a vapor not really there 1475 00:59:51,270 --> 00:59:48,100 you know what I mean like paper but in 1476 00:59:53,730 --> 00:59:51,280 dark gray black and then they were 1477 00:59:57,570 --> 00:59:53,740 carrying a black suitcase and on they 1478 00:59:59,610 --> 00:59:57,580 had a black car which was old-fashioned 1479 01:00:04,560 --> 00:59:59,620 you know like those classic cars that 1480 01:00:06,030 --> 01:00:04,570 the bomb cars and then the yeah I asked 1481 01:00:08,190 --> 01:00:06,040 them and you know if I could help them 1482 01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:08,200 they said that they they were looking 1483 01:00:12,390 --> 01:00:10,720 for my sister and I told them that she 1484 01:00:14,220 --> 01:00:12,400 wasn't there at the moment and I just 1485 01:00:16,350 --> 01:00:14,230 said if they wanted to leave a message 1486 01:00:19,590 --> 01:00:16,360 and I went you know to let them know 1487 01:00:21,170 --> 01:00:19,600 they were and then they told me they 1488 01:00:24,570 --> 01:00:21,180 were from Avon 1489 01:00:26,070 --> 01:00:24,580 and I I just kind of didn't think so 1490 01:00:28,590 --> 01:00:26,080 because they didn't look to be able on 1491 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:28,600 people they were just all dressed and in 1492 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:31,570 but you know kind of said it's a great 1493 01:00:41,130 --> 01:00:36,010 but I really thought that it was a 1984 1494 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:41,140 they said they were from Avon doesn't it 1495 01:00:45,420 --> 01:00:43,450 sound pretty archaic is the men in black 1496 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:45,430 whatever they say stupid things they 1497 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:51,610 think they sound hip really dumb I just 1498 01:00:57,330 --> 01:00:56,050 kind of like we're really Avon ladies 1499 01:00:58,920 --> 01:00:57,340 were there really Avon ladies of 1500 01:01:00,660 --> 01:00:58,930 Representatives in 1984 the go 1501 01:01:08,820 --> 01:01:00,670 door-to-door still I really don't think 1502 01:01:11,610 --> 01:01:08,830 so no it was unreal you know but they 1503 01:01:15,030 --> 01:01:11,620 did kind of seem to be vapor kind of not 1504 01:01:17,430 --> 01:01:15,040 really there you know home papers and I 1505 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:17,440 think after after they told me they were 1506 01:01:21,660 --> 01:01:20,410 from Avon I saw one of them going to the 1507 01:01:24,590 --> 01:01:21,670 back of the house and they seemed like 1508 01:01:28,620 --> 01:01:24,600 they were looking for something and then 1509 01:01:30,390 --> 01:01:28,630 like the same idea came which is I'm not 1510 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:30,400 sure how they arrived there and then I 1511 01:01:36,180 --> 01:01:34,210 never saw her left either so all I know 1512 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:36,190 is they knocked and that's when I first 1513 01:01:40,740 --> 01:01:37,690 saw them but I don't know how they got 1514 01:01:42,430 --> 01:01:40,750 there they drove in and I didn't I'm 1515 01:01:47,330 --> 01:01:42,440 driving 1516 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:47,340 there's just a story that I 1984 it's it 1517 01:01:50,450 --> 01:01:48,690 sounds like a classic men in black 1518 01:01:51,980 --> 01:01:50,460 encounter Tim I did like I was saying 1519 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:51,990 earlier you know they told her they were 1520 01:01:57,110 --> 01:01:53,850 from Avon and I've heard stories that 1521 01:01:59,360 --> 01:01:57,120 the men in black sometimes they use 1522 01:02:02,330 --> 01:01:59,370 euphemism that are so a euphemism x' and 1523 01:02:04,910 --> 01:02:02,340 other words are so outdated and 1524 01:02:07,130 --> 01:02:04,920 irrelevant is that true have you heard 1525 01:02:09,620 --> 01:02:07,140 that as well Tim oh very very much so 1526 01:02:12,650 --> 01:02:09,630 there's there's been cases where they 1527 01:02:17,750 --> 01:02:12,660 have come to the door claiming to be 1528 01:02:22,670 --> 01:02:17,760 encyclopedia salesmen or you know or 1529 01:02:24,650 --> 01:02:22,680 taking like a census surveys or things 1530 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:24,660 like that but yeah very much so I mean 1531 01:02:30,530 --> 01:02:28,050 and and I have heard like the caller 1532 01:02:31,850 --> 01:02:30,540 just said I have heard of them saying 1533 01:02:33,410 --> 01:02:31,860 that they were you know Avon 1534 01:02:35,750 --> 01:02:33,420 representatives that's bizarre 1535 01:02:36,740 --> 01:02:35,760 yeah Linda thank you thank you so much 1536 01:02:38,900 --> 01:02:36,750 for your experience and thank you for 1537 01:02:40,010 --> 01:02:38,910 your call see I'm great having you on 1538 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:40,020 and we're gonna give you this 1539 01:02:43,490 --> 01:02:41,970 conversation all night long but having 1540 01:02:45,350 --> 01:02:43,500 you on board talking about it's amazing 1541 01:02:46,820 --> 01:02:45,360 if people want to contact you and get 1542 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:46,830 your conspiracy newsletter how can they 1543 01:02:49,730 --> 01:02:47,370 do that 1544 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:49,740 yes well all I have to do they go to my 1545 01:02:56,750 --> 01:02:54,330 website at conspiracy journal dot-com we 1546 01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:56,760 have a weekly email newsletter that we 1547 01:02:59,960 --> 01:02:58,290 send out for free you can sign up for 1548 01:03:00,800 --> 01:02:59,970 that and you know it's funny in that too 1549 01:03:02,900 --> 01:03:00,810 yeah we've been talking about this 1550 01:03:04,670 --> 01:03:02,910 subject tonight because Tim Beckley and 1551 01:03:07,370 --> 01:03:04,680 myself we've got a book coming out soon 1552 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:07,380 called alien mind control so men and 1553 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:09,170 black fit right in with that 1554 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:11,010 fantastic Tim thank you so much for 1555 01:03:14,150 --> 01:03:12,090 being on the program tonight such a 1556 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:14,160 pleasure having you on in such a great 1557 01:03:18,710 --> 01:03:15,690 topic to out-of-the-blue with these 1558 01:03:20,780 --> 01:03:18,720 strange men in black in iowa and thank 1559 01:03:22,700 --> 01:03:20,790 you so much for the I guess you call it 1560 01:03:24,860 --> 01:03:22,710 a geographical sense because not very 1561 01:03:26,300 --> 01:03:24,870 many people know the area and having 1562 01:03:27,620 --> 01:03:26,310 that information I think is also vital 1563 01:03:29,270 --> 01:03:27,630 to the story so Tim thank you so much 1564 01:03:30,530 --> 01:03:29,280 for being on the program tonight Thank